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I see our age with it's issues - benefits as well as problems - as being something for us as individuals to deal with. I don't see it as the job of organisations and businesses to pander to us. We are what we are so must adapt if necessary and carry on.
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+1, there are institutions out there to cover all ages, they will charge for risk. Insuring a 30+yr old will always be way less £’s than an 80+yr old-astronomically so due to the massive risk issues🤷🏻♂️
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But as said the demographic of this leisure company is as posted by several the older generations,who keep this leisure companies sites viable out of the peak periods ,
And unless like some posters who are very blinkered with how it is being run in the "dash for cash" with it seems no regard for their older discount card holders when they expect holders to take out insurance cover and as posted very expensive for our age group
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An alternative view might be that without those pesky old folk using sites in winter, they could be closed saving loads of money in running costs. There you are then, camc is doing you oldies a favour by staying open.
I think we've all got your message now, thanks, so there's no need to keep repeating the dash for cash and demographic stuff👍
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I wonder if the club has ever published a breakdown of the age profile of members. Undoubtedly older members make more use of sites than younger simply because they are retired and so can do so. But that doesn’t mean a majority of members are older. It is quite an issue for the club. They need to encourage younger members to ensure succession. They need to appeal to their users which may well be predominantly older.
I have felt for sometime that the offers are aimed at younger people, go ape etc. I can’t remember ever having benefitted from any of them.
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It doesn't matter what two of you think the demographics are of the club it's what really happens on sites that matters and I see a different picture of the demographic using club sites at weekends and in the more popular times.
As to the older generation keeping sites viable that is up to debate. Does a smaller number of people paying lower prices equal higher numbers with children paying far higher prices? The club needs both but I suspect the higher occupancy leads to more income
Anyway you've proved yourself wrong in this one case as you posted that your current club site is nearly empty with very few outfits on so how is that viable and/or keeping the club going?
If it's too expensive to take out insurance then don't use club sites?
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Sorry didn't see you post which echo's mine.
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It matters not to us if this leisure organisation closes sites at other than busy times not just winter periods, as you and others say there are alternatives
And how you say it will save money? Then you need to come unto the real world of costs as there is on many sites staff members called winter caretakers , and the costs of closing and opening sites,is not cheap as all the equipment has to be closed down and then re energised by contractors
As for still trying to get the message over it is stamina,
And as noted by the discount card holder who had the stamina to keep on at this organisation and got some information about this booking system and hopefully in Feb a system that may be as user friendly as in the past
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If some of the members are penny pinchers or demanders of special treatment I’m afraid it makes sense to to try & work them out of the equation it’s called survival-no pay no play.
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An alternative view might be that without those pesky old folk using sites in winter, they could be closed saving loads of money in running costs. There you are then, camc is doing you oldies a favour by staying open.
Another alternate view might be that...if the club did close sites in the winter/off peak season,..they would have to mothball them and lay off many wardens...and hope they will return in the future for the 'peak' seasons....
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Well there ya go👍🏻, do they also have a Ferry Meadows there?🤔
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And they’d save staff and fuel costs. The site staff are on fixed term contracts so there would be no laying off as such.
I did say, though, as you noticed that an alternative view might be as I stated. I didn’t say it was definitive as neither you nor I, nor even JVB, know the true facts about the costs and practicalities of running sites.
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About three quarters of club sites close for the winter and have done so for years. There's no laying off of staff.
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Did I mention weekends and popular times?
Wrong ? This side which is open is about 90 pitches as others have said as well where is everybody as there have been less than thirty LVs on at any time except just over this last weekend
But then neither you or any body else I would think who post on here would know how much per day or how many outfits it takes to make it viable ,it just at this time as many other off peak weekdays it is only the retired not all on good government pensions that are using the site
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When you as I have been members of the club that was, as long as us 53coming up to 54yrs in January ,we have many retired and some later employed working site staff (two working came for a fish supper a couple of weeks ago )who we hope can be classed as friends and also some one who used to live near us ,and now lives and works at East Grimstead as advised to us
So the information, only some that is less sensitive is posted on here
and even some of that is Deleted User by mods. because it seems they are not privy to it
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Many organisations and businesses do understand how much they appreciate the older generations hence the senior discounts so many of them give , ,even Iceland has come to realise and gives 10 per cent discount on Tuesdays to the over 60s
Bus passes Senior Rail cards the message is quite clear, that very many want us to use what they offer
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Deleted User I believe because you persist in posting hearsay which may or may not be true and which could include info that you and we are not entitled to know.
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What those businesses do is up to them and I have no expectation of them pandering to me. It is also of no relevance to CAMC policies regarding pricing, insurance or anything else.
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JV. You benefit every year from a CAMC goodwill gesture, one that can only be age related. So they do acknowledge you and your like. 👍
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They don't appreciate the older generation they just want your money. Rail passes (and there are younger versions available) are there because they want you to travel and pay them rather than all the other ways there are to travel like by bus or use your car. Iceland do that rather than you going to ADSA or whatever. If there was no competition I am pretty sure they would not offer any such offers just because once is a certain age?
But what what company does is just irreverlant, the club doesn't as it feels there is no need to do so I assume? Why offer a discount just because you're of the older generation when it can fill sites well enough without them?
So if you want a age related discount this isn't the place so don't join or use club sites?
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But can it ? That is only at weekends sometimes and peak periods on some sites as I have posted. off peak it is the pensioners that keep most sites viable especially mid week ,and this organisation has even trashed that by doing away with mid week discounts on the sites that had them
And that was put in place to try to attract discount card holders to use sites ,and it was very noticeable by the amount of older generation. Who arrived on Mondays and then left on Fridays
Hose that know this site will know one of the most popular areas is near and in front of the toilets at this time today there are five LVs on those pitches including us and one is a French registration PVC and another is a hired from Just Go motor caravans also is a New Eriba owned by a local couple on their first time out to try it (not impressed by how ,if any ,the PDI from the dealer was carried out)
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