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  • Unknown
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    edited December 2022 #62
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  • TimboC
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    edited December 2022 #63

    We had a meter fitted last year as it was a requirement of getting the best deal our provider was offering.

    I was very sceptical to begin with, but am now a convert as it has focussed minds on our usage.

    We used to have 2 freezers, and now only 1. We used to leave the telly on standby all the time, and now don't. Everything in my office was always switched on, not now. We are finding better ways of using the oven, cooker, washing machine and kettle...all to save money.

    Yes, we could have done all of this without a meter, but now we can see exactly how much we use each day, and our supplier gives us cash incentives to reduce usage at certain times of the day.

    The result is that, thanks to the £66 we get from HMG, we are making money each month and won't have to pay a penny until next April, or possibly June as our surplus is increasing. The meter sits in a cupboard out of view, and sends our readings direct to the supplier. I can't now think of a single logical reason not to have one

  • Tammygirl
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    edited December 2022 #64

    Well so far it's all been good for you and I'm glad that is the case. However there are thousands of homes that have not had, are still having, a bad experience with Smart meters.

    Some have of course gone 'dumb' so these folk are back to having to read the meter and send in the results.

    Some folk are being charged more than they should be because they have solar panels, despite being told that the meters are OK to work with SPs for some that is not the case.

    I'm with DD, I don't need a bit of kit to tell me how to manage my energy usage. I read the meter most evenings on going to bed, I walk right past the cupboard it's in so not going out of my way.  I know what I've used during the day so have a fair idea how much we should have registered.

    We have a fridge freezer + a medium chest freezer, combined they use less than 2 KwHs per day at this time of year. All tvs barring the Smart TV in the lounge are switched off.

    As is all other non essential equipment. Overnight we consume around 1 KwH of electricity. In summer due to having SPs our daily usage is minimal, not the same now but we are still below average most days. 

  • young thomas
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    edited December 2022 #65

    With folk facing bills of xxx hundreds/thousands of pounds per year, perhaps the meter can put up a message in early February telling folk to go to Spain for three months, and then again in August.
    must be getting to the point where it really is 'cheaper to go away and turn the heating off'.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited December 2022 #66

    😁😁 You could be right there YT. We were away for 11 weeks in total (been back 1 week) haven't worked out all the cost's yet but the gas tank we had filled back in July only used 1% a week over Oct and Nov. We leave the heating on at 15c so it had been on a couple of times. Since we got back its 1% a day. Of course very little electric used but we have earned money from the SPs 😊

    Why wait until Feb to go though, the worst months are usually Dec, Jan and Feb. We'd be away still if it wasn't for the 90 day rule. Would definitely be in the money if we could have stayed until end of Feb 😅😅

  • Cartledge
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    edited December 2022 #67

    If you don’t want to pay, don’t go. Simples! Use somewhere else that’s cheaper, everyone has to cope with cost increases. It depends on how much you value your caravanning leisure time doesn’t it. Camp in the garden…….

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2022 #68

    It seems if you want cheaper  ,its is most places except this clubs sites nowsurprised

  • Cornersteady
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    edited December 2022 #69

    Not true at all club sites are still middle of the road, many above their prices as well as below. Choose the price that gives you want you want.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited December 2022 #70

    Well maybe but to put things in perspective there's been a post like yours talking empty pitches (and nothing wrong with that) every year, often many times a year ever since I've been on CT, I can't remember when I joined but it must be close to 10 years now?

    I said before, and really thought, that this could well be the year but bookings taken with deposits seem to suggest not even this year? 

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2022 #71

    That depends on the time of year and if it is a holiday camp style LV site

  • Cornersteady
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    edited December 2022 #72

    Again not true, for any time of year, on any given day even,  there will sites cheaper than club sites and also more expensive than club sites. And nothing to do with a holiday camp style, which I'm not sure what that is to be honest.

    But it really doesn't matter in the end as just choose the site and price one likes.

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2022 #73

    Haven etcundecided

    And I did not say allwink

    But just wait untill the next price rises come through  especially when dynamic pricesing startsurprised

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2022 #74

    I’m not sure why dynamic pricing should worry most folk. It’s a matter of picking your time as I do with ordering goods from Amazon when I see their prices fluctuating. Dynamic pricing is a response to market forces so the answer is not to follow the herd if at all possible.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited December 2022 #75

    I thought, perhaps wrongly, that dynamic pricing might mean higher prices at times of greatest demand, If as forcast there will be empty pitches it won't happen or prices will be lowered?

    If it happens due to greater demand then high club prices are not putting people off?

    What's to worry about?

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2022 #76

    Spot on 👍🏻

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2022 #77

    If thats is what you hope then carry on 

    We had some working site staff visit  us earlier this week and that is not their take on Dynamic pricing that has yet to be implemented 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2022 #78

    Sorry, carry on what? 

    Some folk don’t understand the concept of dynamic pricing but that’s probably not their fault even though the meaning is easy to find.

    "Dynamic pricing, also referred to as surge pricing, demand pricing, or time-based pricing, is a pricing strategy in which businesses set flexible prices for products or services based on current market demands.[1] Businesses are able to change prices based on algorithms that take into account competitor pricing, supply and demand, and other external factors in the market.[2] Dynamic pricing is a common practice in several industries such as hospitality, tourism, entertainment, retail, electricity, and public transport. Each industry takes a slightly different approach to dynamic pricing based on its individual needs and the demand for the product."

    Ack - Wiki.

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2022 #79

    As the last sentance acknowledges wink

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2022 #80

    If you mean the last sentence of the Wiki quote, it refers to adjusting prices due to demand which is what I explained earlier so it appears you’re agreeing with my summary, thanks👍🏻

  • KjellNN
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    edited December 2022 #81

    TG, the Smets 2 meters they are fitting now are fine with the solar panels, will even tell you how much you are exporting.  We waited till we were certain it would be OK with our panels.

    The signal they send is not sent on normal mobile phone networks but using something special according to the guys who fitted ours and the one at the guide hall, though I am not sure exactly how it all works.

  • KjellNN
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    edited December 2022 #82

    I read somewhere, possibly on MSE, that if you need a new meter because of the age of the one you have, then it will only be replaced by a smart meter.  The person saying it seemed to have some inside knowledge on the subject.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2022 #83

    I'm sorry if you have completely misunderstood the whole thing, JV, but it's too late tonight for lengthy explanations.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2022 #84

    Not so, Kj. You have to be offered a smart meter but do not have to have one. Been there, done that and come out the other side with a dumb meter👍

  • brue
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    edited December 2022 #85

    Scottish Energy TW, not the same over the border.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2022 #86

    TG, also in Scotland, didn't create that impression. 🤔

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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited December 2022 #88

    Absolutely👍 We have been using dynamic pricing and market forces to get seriously cut price cottages and hotel stays for around the last twenty years. If you can be flexible, it pays back in lots of money off. It works just as well snapping up that one rock bottom train ticket as well if you can be organised enough ahead. 

    If you truly understand how dynamic pricing works, and it’s not just a conversation with the half informed, then it can benefit those who don’t need to tie into dates and sites. 👍

     

  • SteveL
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    edited December 2022 #89

    From the point of view of the CAMC booking early seems to currently be the correct strategy. Everything we have booked for next year has gone up, some of it significantly. I suppose they might come along with some late offers, however we have got what we wanted and late offers may not relate to those sites. That’s not to say we might not snap one up, but it will just be for a 3 to 4 day break, rather than part of a tour, which in this country we prefer to plan in advance.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited December 2022 #90

    I got an Olight Torch with 60% off after the rush. . .Slowly slowly catchy monkey😂😂

  • Cornersteady
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    edited December 2022 #91

    As I posted before but I think the club did say that the earlier you booked the cheaper it is would be and something about being even cheaper if for example there would be no refund of any deposit. Don't quote me on that but I'm sure that was written somewhere but perhaps it was just a suggestion that came to nothing?