Is EHU metering a good investment?
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I agree about the personal remarks.
It's not a problem but surely those that use club sites more and will continue should have perhaps more to contribute than those who don't and in some cases not at all?
For the former it's their future holidays that will be affected while for the latter it's just an academic discussion? Just my point of view.
At the end of the day the club will decide but I would hope they listen to those that do use them? But then again it will probably do what is the better financial option, ie makes more money.
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Skylark Barn, Belmesthorpe.
An excellent place to stay too.
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So is spending £3m plus and really more, an investment? No answer to that yet?
I take it you mean in monetary terms since you accept there are the benefits of a fairer system and cost control. With the latter also comes better budgeting. There may well be extra income to be obtain if meter installation encourages more site usage or on the other hand it might discourage it. This needs to be tested along with operational factors which is probably why the Club, as with ANPR, wishes to go down the the less expensive route of trials to test the water. The expenditure of millions is a long way off.
peedee
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Attempted deflection of some members comments on the basis that "you don't use club sites anyway" fails to take into account that amendment of the current regime of "pay for EHU whether you want it or not" might encourage those who are currently reluctant to visit sites more often.
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Ive not read the entire thread so this may have been mentioned earlier but having used a CL with metered usage it certainly makes you think and address your usage.
The CL introduced metered usage with an inclusive allowance of 10 units, absolutely no problem with this as costs need to be controlled, weve all seen awnings with the glow of halogen heaters belting away, extra fridges, coolers and stand alone electric ovens, even the odd EV plugged into a EHU via a splitter.
Luckly we had fair weather so dident need the heating on much (using gas over electric) however the alde system will use 10-12 units just on hot water over 24hrs, and the fridge consumed around 4 units per day. We managed to keep the average daily units below 10 by switching on the alde one hour before use for washing up etc, but will be impossble in colder climates.
Its so easy when on a club site to rock up switch everything on and forget about it, must easly be using 40 units a day just to run the caravan before plugging in portable heaters, cooking appliances, EV's etc.
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Maybe those advocating the option not to hook up should email the Club for a response as to why they won't do it. I did get an answer many years ago but I have forgotten exactly what was said. I think it went along the lines they would fall foul of the current rules.
I know of no sites in the UK that offer the option when the hook up is available on the pitch.
peedee
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Why is having a meter connected to an EHU bollard any different to having a meter at home? I'm sure there would be a lot of uproar if home meters were removed and a blanket price charged, sufficient to cover the high users, which I am sure we would all become in time.
As to commercial electricity contract tariffs, the CL that I rereferred to up-thread, told me their new contract tariff was £1.05 per unit (over three times what I pay at home) and that is what I would be charged, or refunded, for over or under use of the basic 15kW that is inbuilt into their daily site fees.
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Offering a number of inclusive units might satisfy those who find topping up meters an inconvenience but doesn't that require meters to be read by site staff on departure followed by payment for any excess? That to me adds inconvenience over using a card system.
peedee
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I agree about the nitpicking and petty squabbling being irritating and I suspect it is the reason that many members give up posting or even reading CT. The irony is, that many of the nitpickers state that all members are entitled to their opinion, then when members post their opinion, they are often criticised and often derided bcause that opinion differs from the opinion of those who do the nitpicking.
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I agree cards would be the way forward, but for a CL with only five outfits, not necessarily changing on a daily basis, the amount of work is negligible.
To answer Kj, it is £33.75 per night or £18.00 with no electric. This is, apparently, the going rate in their very touristy area. On the assumption that we will possibly only use 10 units per day in June, it will bring the price down to about £28.50. Yes, quite costly, but it appears to be a very well maintained CL with many other amenities such as fast, free, site wide Wifi.
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Apart from labelling someone's valid opinion as an attempted deflection why not answer a simple question?
£5 has been quoted as the reduction in the nightly fee. Personally I think that's a bit low but if that was the case would you then use club sites?
What's the average club site nightly fee at now?
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As I said before I agree, there must be a reason why the club won't offer a non EHU option, either the one alluded to by PD or something else, maybe it confuses campers which was used last time.
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It's the season of goodwill so not nitpicking or anything and perhaps I'm not reading it right but are you saying there no other UK site with EHU included offers a non EHU option?
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I agree cards would be the way forward, but for a CL with only five outfits, not necessarily changing on a daily basis, the amount of work is negligible.
FYI , I am aware there are many CLs who would like to join in with the same system as what might be adopted by the Club. If this was a card system the same card could be used on these CLs as on Club sites.
peedee
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We find that about 15-20 minutes on 2kw is plenty long enough to heat a full tank of water, for showering, from cold in summer, in our Alde. Even quicker on gas. Dish washing needs less HW.
Freezing here right now, so might take a bit longer today!
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It was booking grass or hardstanding. I think "confusion" was a bit of an excuse at the time, it was more people not remembering what type of pitch they had booked, then getting annoyed when they were not allowed to take a hardstanding that they saw was vacant.
We used one of the sites in the trial, the warden was most relieved when OH agreed that she did know that we had booked a hardstanding, and explained that they were having problems with forgetful members!
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Yes it was used last time and of course completely sensible
What I meant was they'll probably use it again after the trial for metering.
As to the your last sentence I'm positive that while that may be true for a few it certainly does not apply to either of us.
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