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  • Tammygirl
    Tammygirl Club Member Posts: 7,957 ✭✭✭
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    edited November 2022 #482

    What other's?

    I said I didn't know what site I was going to because I didn't know.

     

    I looked at the CAMC booking site, selected the MAP,  moved it to the area we thought we would be at a given time, selected a site and booked it. It's not difficult to do, I'm not sure what you are trying to say. It's a way you can look to book a site. There are other ways but this way works. 

  • paulmold
    paulmold Club Member Posts: 80 ✭✭✭
    edited November 2022 #483

    I 'm thrilled it works for you on your old android. My android tablet and phone are only 2 years old and I can't use the map, it just won't move smoothly,  it jumps all over the place, takes an eternity to move from map to list and vice versa. Please accept that it doesn't work for many, many people and consider yourself very very lucky.

  • peedee
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    edited November 2022 #484

    PM, Sorry to read you are having difficults when others aren't. Are you using the App or the web site? Have a read of >this article<, it may help. It would be interesting to know the make and model of your tablet and phone you are using. If it is not up to the job, it will indicate to others what to avoid when buying.

    peedee

     
  • paulmold
    paulmold Club Member Posts: 80 ✭✭✭
    edited November 2022 #485

    Both, in fact they appear to be exactly the same. Samsung TabA running android 11 and Motorola E20 also android 11.

  • JVB66
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    edited November 2022 #486

    It seems with this booking system  you need a fast Internet and later type operating system that you use to get it to work

    And this clubs sites certainly do not have the first as I thought may improve when at home but does not seem the case when the USA and school children are using it in this area as we do not have fibre optic just the old copper wires

  • peedee
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    edited November 2022 #487

    Thanks for the response, as it happens my wife's tablet is a Tab A and I have just had a play with it and I acknowledge the map upadating is slow when using the booking web site as compared to my Samsung S7 tablet but it is not unusable.  It just requires a bit more patience. I was using it over my home WiFi network which gives a good download speed or round about 70Mbs

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  • peedee
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    edited November 2022 #488

    It seems with this booking system you need a fast Internet and later type operating system that you use to get it to work

    It does not appear to matter too much about what operating system you are using but it does appear to require a good processor speeds (in excess of 2Ghz) and plenty of RAM to obtain speedy results.

    peedee

     
  • paulmold
    paulmold Club Member Posts: 80 ✭✭✭
    edited November 2022 #489

    Good processor speeds and plenty of RAM are not things seen that often on portable devices such as tablets and phones. This hobby of ours involves touring which means vast majority use portable devices. To design a system that requires a PC or at least a high power laptop just shows the lack of understanding of the business the club is in. 

  • DavidKlyne
    DavidKlyne Club Member Posts: 13,859 ✭✭✭
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    edited November 2022 #490

    I always travel with a small 14 inch screen HP laptop which has an i3 processor and takes up only a little more room than my Samsung  tablet and is a lot easier to use. The problem is that people have been seduced into using phones and tablets thinking they can do everything with ease. Whilst that is true of some things it's not universal.Many won't agree with me but that is my view.

    David

  • SteveL
    SteveL Club Member Posts: 12,302 ✭✭✭
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    edited November 2022 #491

    It works adequately on an iPad 8th generation and iphone SE 3rd generation. Neither of which are top end devices. I had no problem using it on tour, as long as the 4G or WiFi was above about 5mbs. 

  • paulmold
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    edited November 2022 #492

    'Adequately ' isn't good enough, when the old system was 'well above adequate'. The old app is still available, so simple to use but only shows availability up to May so that will soon be gone. I've certainly no intention of switching to Apple products or investing in an all singing all dancing laptop regardless of size. For the cost of such items I could stay on top commercial sites for several years. I shall continue to use Search4sites to find sites whether they be club, commercial or CL/CS until this fiasco is sorted and use my phone to book. 

  • peedee
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    edited November 2022 #493

    What the Club really needs to do is to produce a decent App to run on phones and tablets. The new one is no where near as good as the old one.

    The web site works fine on higher end devices it just needs the errors to be rectified.

    peedee

     
  • young thomas
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    edited November 2022 #494

    As I mentioned earlier somewhere, the advance of software design pulls the hardware requirements along and the advance in hardware capability pulls the software design along to take advantage of it.

    It's a continual cycle with older apps falling by the wayside and older hardware  becoming redundant for many applications.

    you only have to look at TomTom and how quickly older devices can't cope with more and more detailed mapping and extra information 'we all want' like photos of campsites and other destinations...

    how many old PCs get binned as they can't manages the next 'upgrade'?

    tis life with technology, I'm afraid...we all want more...more speed, better resolution, more videos, more photos, more storage and so it goes on.

    I do use a recent iPhone 13 so I have no prob...I might get my old SE or 4s out for a bit of fun😀

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited November 2022 #495

    *The main reason Apple do it-abandon older models that is is to push folk to buying new. System architecture changes & morphs forward at an alarming speed & with each upgrade more innovation is built in.Todays IT is not what it was 10/20yrs ago not even 5yrs ago. It’s controlled only by the mental innovation of IT techs. 
    *PS-Apple updates & their abandoning of them for more revenue.

  • Gillway
    Gillway Forum Participant Posts: 29
    edited November 2022 #496

    The advance in technology is inevitable world wide. A business selling its product that an average customer cannot buy easily and at their convenience makes bad business sense. I don’t think those sat around the big table at head office should put themselves forward to be the next Apprentice any time soon! 🙄

  • SteveL
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    edited November 2022 #497

    I only used the word adequately because of course if I run it on our iMac it runs very quickly and very smoothly. Lots of folk, me included will do their planning at home on a desk top. Only perhaps checking or revising something on route.  Both iPad and phone work perfectly well for that and indeed for primary planning  if I can’t  be bothered to go upstairs. OK the map scrolls and zooms a little slower than on the iMac but it is adequate. 😀

    As to the App I totally agree. The new one is nothing but a front end to the web site, there is no off line capability. In fact it’s not as good as the web site as it only works in portrait, so doesn’t allow an even split of the screen on a pad. 

  • KjellNN
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    edited November 2022 #498

    Unfortunately, we have to make do with i phone cast offs, when our children, who have plenty of money, get new phones, we inherit their old ones.  So OH currently has a 4s and I have a slightly newer one.  They work fine as phones.  And are generally fine for  browsing the internet.

    Our iPads were birthday gifts from our children, so are about 3 years old, and usually work fine, just not so good with the CAMC new booking system.

    However, as we will not be booking any CAMC sites, due to cost, that does not really matter.  It is however annoying that the new App is so bad.

  • Ian Spk
    Ian Spk Forum Participant Posts: 14
    edited December 2022 #499

    Well that's it, I have tried to get my head around this absolute joke of a new booking system I thought at one point that it was me being a luddite but no it is a fact that the new web booking system is an absolute joke. Oh and I don't care much for the loss of the USP which was a no deposit booking.......on those two basis I can't see me renewing my membership........please MCC .....can we go back to how it was