Unconfirmed all sites arrival times to be 1300 hrs
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I can’t say I care if 12 or 1. For medical reasons we need to have lunch 12.15 to 12.45.
we do most of our packing the day before, so by the time we have got up, had breakfast, and finished packing it is somewhere between 10 and 10.30 leave from home.
If a site is 12 entry and near enough we will try and arrive by then and have lunch immediately, if not, lunch on the road somewhere.
if travelling between sites that are relatively close we visit somewhere on the way. Easier in a Motorhome, but when we had the caravan we were rarely travelling between close sites.
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As has been relayed to us by several site staff' when trying to keep to the arrival times members who arrive earlier than the site arrival time will often complain that the wardens at XXX site let us in early why can't you? even as everyone who posts on here should know no site is the same and has different amounts of work to be carried out before any new arrivals can be accepted so as in the past at 1200 did not give the staff time to carry it all out in time, 1300 has been found to be adequate and also have a quick lunch before the rush for pitches starts again
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As TTDA mentions, the 'work' that JVB alludes to is not 'work' related to actually getting pitches ready but carrying out the 'other tasks' that commercial sites (and overseas sites) have done by dedicated staff....cleaning toilets, cutting grass etc etc.
so, the 'schedule' is there purely to allow the CAMC staff to complete their daily rota for 'jobs'...unfortunately this doesn't allow for the office to be manned all day.
with no 'work' being required to a pitch once someone has left, there's no real reason why the next customer can't get on it...is there?
TTDAs post must be embarrassing for anyone technical in the CC hierarchy who actually read what an archaic batch of processes it takes to deliver such poor service.
we come 'home' in a week or so's time and it will be a jarring jolt to leave the easy entry/exit/MHSP use/prices/booking(not) we've been used to for the past 8 weeks or so....and to plug in to our CC bookings
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TDAs experience at Ferry Meadows reflects that particular site where security has had to be improved. It's not a general experience, every site is different and some approaches to arrivals are more relaxed. Much depends on the site management and what is appropriate for them at different times of the year. However a general fixed CAMC arrival time is easier for many of us to remember IMHO.
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Morning
You're right about the extra security at FM brue. Anyone who has experienced an undesirable element on a site would agree, and that site seems to have suffered more than most.
In 2020 a lot of sites really struggled to be ready for 12.00 arrivals with all the extra duties needed to be covid secure so they were changed to 13.00. Can you remember the protesting posts on here about the 12.00 on some sites and 13.00 on others? It was the same last year with many complaints to HO. That's why we now have a uniform 13.00 arrival time and as you say, easier to remember. There will always be room for flexibility during the quieter times, hey on my site I may even answer the phone!! (after I've taken care of 90 pitches on 11 acres on my own
)JK
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Its four years ago we last used Ferry Meadows and the double security gate was in action then. Didn't find it an issue on arrival, just follow the instructions. The 13.00 pm arrival is a bit of a nuisance for us at this site as its less than 50 miles from where we live but no doubt we will cope!
David
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Personally we prefer the 12’o’clock check in, (a quick lunch and then get set up) BUT, it would help enormously if all sites followed the same rules for arrival time. We do not always think of checking and have, on a few occasions, got it wrong. Just make a time,13.00 if necessary, but have that for all sites - simples!
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We also prefer 12.00. With 13.00, especially if there is a queue to book in, even though we just site the van, level up and maybe fetch water, lunch gets very late, which tends to make dinner too late for us.
However, now we are using far more CCC sites, we are getting used to 13.00, though their check in is generally much quicker now.
Often we may stop for lunch en route, we have our HS pre booked so no rush, unlike CAMC sites at present.
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jobs'...unfortunately this doesn't allow for the office to be manned all day.
This is not quite correct though. This only applies to those sites that have a single set of wardens. Where the are double or even triple sets the office is most certainly staffed all day.
On single set sites the office is closed while cleaning but opens for arrivals. I suppose staff could be bought in for that hour or so but then costs increase.
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I know how vulnerable FM is to Traveller incursions, and how bad they can be, so not surprised at all at the security at FM. But I still think it could have a better system which would benefit both customers and staff. No complaints about the staff, by the way.
I thought the new book a pitch type, pay before arrival scheme would streamline things a bit but not sure how it would work here.
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BB if you find using CAMC sites a 'jarring jolt' then why use them?
Club sites only account for about 10% of UK sites, probably less. Find other sites that won't give you such a reaction?
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The single biggest issue with uniformity for the club is that it is not a single site but a collective of many individual sites each having its own set of specific challenges and constraints. Whatever is suggested for all regarding arrival/departure times, cleaning régimes, lunch breaks etc some staff will always be forced to meet this with leniency if it clearly doesn’t work for that setting. You just need to check the specifics of your booked site prior to visiting.
Some have advocated staffing levels is the main issue. Well some of the sites are so remote they have very little chance at all of finding workers willing to do a couple of hrs a day and possibly having to travel nearly as much time to and from that work.
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If this really was a Club then it would be straight forward for the members to physically contribute to the upkeep and maintainence of the site at which they were staying. Perhaps it might even be the norm.
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Good post Micky, and I agree. The main attraction of Club Sites for us used to be the huge variety to be found, small, large, urban, rural, basic, full amenities. However, the majority, no doubt driven by customer expectations and the remote HQ all encompassing brief is to dilute that very individuality. I like a bit of adventure with my camping, but find most Club Sites very boring nowadays. Expectations are always met, but the bar in terms of excitement, difference, is set very low. We go elsewhere for something different.
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Our hotels, cafes, B&Bs etc. around us are really struggling for staff at the present. Many are now opening for only a few days a week. A lot of the leisure industry workers toddled off a couple of years back following Brexit. Covid hasn’t helped either.
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Very true, almost every few yards in all the tourist towns in the lakes now have signs saying we're hiring.
In fact sitting outside at Bryson's and there's no hot food due to staff shortages. Doesn't bother me I'm having a cream cake.
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As have mentioned before ,when OH was able to use the general facilties she was having a shower one day ,a woman and her daughter were using the next two showers when ,the daughter fined first and said to her mother "mummy do I use the mop to clean the floor?" The answer "no darling there are people to do that"
There are a team of volunteers who after training can do some of the work on sites
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That is a very good point. Several (possibly most) of the hotels in Cornwall, including the, usually packed, Headland Hotel in Newquay, have had to keep rooms out of use because they can't get sufficient staff to service them (quite apart from waiting on guests and general bar work.) Doubtless much of that is the Brexit effect (and maybe home workers hanging in for those "highly trained, well paid jobs" they were promised at the time.)
One can only imagine the reaction if the club announced they were taking, say 25%, of pitches out of use because of staff shortages!
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800 from P&O available- some will be stewards, waiters, cooks and bar staff - so it sounds as though there is hotel work for them on top of their redundancy pay.
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Havent we got rampant inflation with everyone supposedly feeling the rising costs and a million unemployed....?...
what's the missing link in this 'back to work' equation?
ah yes, it doesn't pay well enough compared to not working...
so, are proposed wages too low or (whisper it) is the 'safety net' too high?
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