E-Scooters: I've seen it all now
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I do apologise for suggesting that you get back into your pram.You have a habit of winding me up.
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You have to question where the antipathy towards some cyclists comes from tho’?
Easy - it is caused by those cyclists on a footpath, that do not signal their approach from behind a pedestrian, by simply ringing/pinging a bell to alert them of their oncoming presence.
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Especially if like myself and others are not always wearing our hearing aids
We should not have to wear a sign to tell cyclists, ,a bit of curtacy with the use of a bell if fitted? goes a long way
Even in more so in the country side footpaths
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I can assure you I do not set out to wind anyone up. I debate as politely as I can but some folk seen unable to keep a cool head.
Apology accepted.
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About 400 yards from where I live there is shared cycleway and footpath it is part of the 21 mile Preston guild wheel. There is a sign saying share with care. A lot of the cyclists are trying see how fast they can do the 21 miles. The amount of cyclists who come past within inches of you is unbelievable, no bell not even an oy you shift.
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Other than where they can ‘share’. The clue is in the description-
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Thank you, it is always a pleasure to help you out. Enjoy your evening🙂
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In MK we have around 200 miles of shared cycle/walk ways and more being added all the time. One advantage of 80% of the town being built in the past 50 years. Seems to work OK, probably because people are used to them. There can we annoyances like family groups spreading right across the path and I share JVB's wish that people on bikes would ping their bells to warn of their approach.
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The trouble is that many cycle paths are not fit for purpose. A few gallons of Dulux do not make a viable cycle path but merely satisfy a council's conscience.
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+1, when I drive into Hull city centre the Council have been busy with the markings for cycle ways they have reduced the road so oddly in places it actually has trucks unable to stay within the road parameters without encroaching on the cycle ways, which backs up your ‘not fit for purpose’🤷🏻♂️
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Spreading out across a path is so annoying be in on foot trying to get by or on a bike.
We always ding our bell but you can get some really nasty comments from folk when you do, not everyone appreciates a warning.
What annoys me is when there is a divided path, cyclists one side padestrians the other and folk migrate across. Now with these eScooters it's even worse, they zip in and out of folk crossing back and forth at some speed.
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Yes, and some council's are seriously better than others, Newcastle, North and South Tyneside are all excellent with wide tarmac paths (many were old railway lines) and designated combined cycle and footpaths while Sunderland is OK at best near the beach to very poor in other places and only fit for mountain bikes.
There is no 'commuter' cycle route into Sunderland from the west. There is the national C2C cycle route but after rain it's very muddy in places and too winding (though very interesting) for a quick route in.
In fact it's the one and only thing I've ever written to the council about!
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No, it’s for sharing👍🏻😊
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Correct👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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Going back to the OP just in case Santa has got one for you on his sleigh and you don't want to see it sawn in half:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-birmingham-59747082
Just my view but surely a better use could be found for them?
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I already posted on a previous thread about this conundrum. I entirely agree that ringing one's bell is one option. But it can have drawbacks.
Ringing bells tends to make people jump and some people get extremely bad tempered if they are sacred in that particular way. I am always cautious about ringing my bell when approaching people who are preventing me passing because they are managing to spread themselves across the entire path. Using the bell also feels to me to be aggressive. The rule is that pedestrians have priority.
My routine when cycling is to ring the bell when quite far away. If it is heard this usually does the trick without making anyone jump. But sometimes it is not heard. In that case I approach slowly and wait until one of the party spots me, which usually happens after a short while. Then, in my experience, they willingly step aside to let me pass. The cyclist who neither rings the bell and then tries to push past is the worst cyclist of all.
I also am often walking. I get mad at cyclists who neither ring the bell nor slow down when going past. Too many assume that even a single pedestrian will walk constantly in a dead straight line. I have had many close calls with uncaring cyclists.
As for e-scooters: these are a total menace on any pavement or pathway and I hate them with a passion. Ignorant people who continue to ride these illegally make me angry, but whilst some local authorities allow it with the hired variety it will never be controlled. I fear we are stuck with them due to this laissez-faire approach.
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One of the problems I foresee is that 80yr olds, like me, do not buy a copy of the highway code every year to check for changes. There has been no government release - in the sense of tuition - on what has happened. I still haven't a clue.
The point about old folk not necessarily walking in a straight line is well made, from experience I know that sudden pain from joint or muscular problems can caused a sideways stagger (as can 1/2 a bottle of wine) which is why I prefer cyclists to ping their bell whilst about to overtake me. It gives me a chance to a avoid or even reduce the risk of a collision.
I am such an irascible old git that should there be a collision then I might lose my temper and lash out in anger - assuming i was not too badly injured.
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Stuck in the outside lane all the time. Didn't know BMW did e-scooters.
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I see that my post re the article in Feb's Mag on E Scooters in Cambridge has been locked as this post covers E Scooter. Most of this post is about cyclists not E Scooters so I will start again. At the moment it is only legal to use E Scooters if they are hired and you are advised to wear a helmet. My point was is it prudent of the Club to have a long article on using E Scooters in Cambridge and generally extolling the virtues of them. Where I live there are no E Scooter hire shops and yet almost every time I go out I come across them often being ridden on the pavement, ignoring traffic lights and the 'driver' not wearing a helmet. I know the current legal situation was explained but is it not premature to print such an article? Also in the picture the author was not wearing a helmet! I see that the well known cycle/car accessory shop (H.....s) sells E Scooters and just carries a little warning that is illegal to ride them in public areas - yes and that will really influence someone buying one.
I am generally in favour of the new rules re cyclists and pedestrians but they will have no affect on E Scooters being used illegally.
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