Clean Air Greater Manchester
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I only found about this recently by accident and feel the Club should have highlighted it more. I will stay away from the area eg caravan sites, National Trust properties and other tourist attractions where I always spend money. Don't forget it is not just the direct route to wherever you are going, it could affect you when touring. I don't like to travel on motorways so on a long journey I could easily travel in and out of a zone more than once. The caravan Club needs to mark on all sites if they are in or close to a zone so that members know before they book. I hope facilities are going to be in place for a vehicle to turn around if they are faced with an advance warning sign that they are about to enter a zone. Whilst I agree with town centre zones, this zone covers countryside which is totally unacceptable and just another money making racket
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Well done to Manchester for introducing this policy. More towns and cities should introduce these schemes to protect the health of their citizens and encourage more people to scrap their polluting vehicles.
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Although the extra £20 might come as a shock in the first year, I'm sure its a very small and insignificant cost compared to a years motor homing and considering the health benefits to the population, especially children and those with asthma and other respiratory diseases a very small price to pay.
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The young girl who died in London which was proven to be mostly down to traffic pollution in her area
£20 every twelve months for euro five and older engined vehicles is not going to bring her and possibly others back , but may reduce pollution for others who suffer
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I don’t think it includes Euro 6 Diesel engines, they are compliant, so not everyone will be charged for entering the zone. The over 3.5 tonne ones, might be.
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Deleted User User & JVB66, your both correct £20 a year for one polluting vehicle wont make any difference but i'm sure the scheme is aimed more at people who take polluting vehicles in to the city regularly and often, and not at the once a year visitor
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At least with this tax you have a choice whether to you pay it or not. Simple don't travel in to the zone in a vehicle which is liable.
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Unfortunately it is much more wide-ranging than driving into the city of Manchester.
The scheme covers the whole of Greater Manchester, urban, suburban and country areas so anyone who lives in Greater Manchester and has a Motorhome older than 6 years old (and that must be thousands) will be subject to a £10 fee every time they drive off their property.
We live at the edge of the GM area (2 miles from the border) and over the last 12 months we have had trips away at least once a month (more in Summer). That’s 12 times off our drive and into the Clean Air zone and another 12 back home giving an additional cost of £240 for the year.
What is grossly unfair about this scheme is that the main areas shown in the plans as the most polluted are the city and large town centres - Manchester/Salford, Bolton, Wigan etc whilst roads in suburban and country areas have very little because of the reduced volume of traffic. The extension of the scheme to cover the whole of the county smacks to me of money-making because there is nothing in the plans to curb the hundreds of diesel cars driving into the town centres every day.
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This is the total area. Roads in red are those where the target air quality is not met, Orange are boarder-line so it gives a full picture of the pollution.
I live south west of the map
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Very easy to say when it doesn’t effect you,
to us and many members in the greater Manchester area will be effected some members will have to sell there pride and joy as the impact of the tax will cripple them unable to enjoy holidays.
this should be condoned by all members as it has massive impacts not just to us as owners but local businesses tradesmen ect.
the attitude of doesn’t effect me so I am not bothered is such a shame and also very disappointing hope to never meet these people on any sites
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There comes a time when we have to think of the greater good. That greater good is clean air and the health of all, especially children who are the future.
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Must be hard on those resident in the zone with none compliant vehicles. When the London zone was introduce there was a lot of similar discussion on what to do. Isn't it possible to modify existing vehicles to be complient and motorhomes could certainly be stored outside the zone. Not as convenient as having it outside the house but it is a solution and one I would think worth investigating.
peedee
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Well it certainly affects me.
I live in Greater Manchester and myself, my children and my grandchild have no choice but to breath the polluted air, caused in part by these old polluting vehicles, so any measures introduced to reduce pollution is welcomed by me.
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That’s very refreshing-someone putting future generations before themselves & actually thinking big👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻.
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Bob Earnshaw, who runs a motorhoming video channel on YouTube has just posted a new video on this subject. I don't think anyone will learn anything new if they have already been to the main website but sometimes its easier to watch a video than go through pages of text. Have a look here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-USjnzPFqk
David
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Whilst I can see where you are coming from MSF,our "local" council is expanding out on a peninsular near where we live, 12,000 houses are planned in phases over the next decade,there is no rail link,nearest main line commuter station is 6 miles away,bottle neck roundabouts now, these councils know this, and local governments, yet it is always the motorist that gets the blame.
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I can see where you are coming from they have recently opened a new station north of Cambridge and are in the process of putting another south of the city to cater for the ever expanding housing developments both stations will have large car parks, as personal transport is still needed to access them,
Cambridge has a very good public transport system with buses but as the boss of Stagecoach East says until the infrastructure is available by big upgrades, he cannot expand into a large EVbus fleet to enhance the system
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