Booking ahead is unfair at some sites
Comments
-
Wow, a bit OTT there PD, why should this be neceassy? You must want a club pitch quite badly!
And would that be legal/moral? One makes a booking and accepts the T&C and they work both ways and now you want the club to renege on those? How you would feel if a booking you made with a non-club site or ferry company came back at you saying we've changed the deposit and either pay up or lose everything?
It would also probably cost far too much and for what?
0 -
Wow, a bit OTT there PD, why should this be neceassy? You must want a club pitch quite badly!
Not OTT at all. If the problem of cancellations are that bad, the Club may feel the sooner the new system is used the better. I don't believe there is anything to stop the Club doing so.
peedee
0 -
Is Marazion leased or club owned ?,
If leased on an annual basis what plans may the owners have that will make more money for them.?
So many leased sites in areas that are prime locations for building or different type of leisure properties and are on annual leases are kept open as they at this time still generate income for the owners in the short term ,it would not surprise me to see a few more leased sites close as the ground is worth far more than is generated ,by leasing, Baltic Wharf?
0 -
Yes it is, as I said you must want a club site so badly to ask for that. You'll just have to wait till 2023 I think
Is the problem of cancellations so bad? And where has that come from PD? Cancellations outside of the 72 hour rule or what?
Reading through I find no mention of the problems of cancellations in the AGM Q&A it says reduce speculative bookings. Now speculative bookings may, and I stress may, lead to cancellations but apart from no mention of that or the numbers involved anywhere, the club in a previous AGM and this one says that vast majority of cancellations are resold so what problem are you now talking about?
...many of the cancelled bookings are resold. However, we accept that this does not make it desirable,
I take that as not really a problem?
So again you would be quite happy if your ferry company asked you to pay an extra deposit or lose your booking?
And you really think it would be so easy to put your idea into action? Explain how, and it would cost nothing to achieve?
0 -
It’s leased from the St Aubyn Estates. Good luck to anyone wanting to build on it, barns and houses disappear down old mines shafts in this vicinity. Our information came straight from the horses mouth, the staff. The Site wasn’t deemed to be earning enough money, it was kept open because of the unexpected surge in bookings (not a pitch to be had when we were there), but is now on a wing and a prayer. Nothing to do with the Estate, all to do with the Club. It does suffer from occasional flooding, although in the twenty years we have used in/known it, not to our knowledge. Certainly nothing like YRP or Tewkesbury, but then the pitches are all grass, and the Site slopes gently. It’s only got a short season anyway.
0 -
Taking capacity out of the network seems short-sighted given current circumstances. Marazion would probably be more sustainable given some basic facilities. I don’t mean a fancy facilities block, but something like the type offered at Trewethett Farm. Site fees could then be inflated. Facilities could be located without loss of pitches and, as for disappearing down a mine shaft, it’s just part of life in Cornwall! I’d be very surprised if there was a serious, persistent flood risk in that area.
0 -
Trewethett has an excellent facilities block, but I take it you mean the portacabins they put along in the big grass area in summer?
I think it would be a shame to add facilities and hike up prices, there are plenty of members who like and use these no facility sites. There are few caravans and MHs that do not have on board facilities, and I think there may well be many members who have started using their own facilities to stay safer on site.
1 -
Yes, portacabins (some are remarkably luxurious). Agree that many like no facility sites but my point is if it’s that or nothing……
I think there are countless MH & caravanners who have their own facilities but never use them aside from the occasional pandemic.
0 -
Some CLs are installing meters - they obviously think it is worth while.
I havent looked yet at the AGM Q & As, but I really do think the Club should be metering electricity. It is an expensive commodity, and those of us who use very little should not have to pay an inclusive fee arrived at to include the large amounts of electricity some use.
0 -
We have had same two emails. We have stayed there, albeit many years ago. Can’t remember Site much, but location wise it didn’t suit us.we much prefer a coastal Cornish location.
0 -
Agree. The Site floods because of overrun off the adjacent fields. We were very surprised at all the gullies dug to try and persuade the water into various directions, never seen these before this year. We had the pitch at the very bottom of the Site, the one by the lower footpath gate, and after very heavy rain, woke up to a semi swimming pool on the Site roadway by our MH. All it needed was a drain and pipe to get water away from this area, probably a half hour job for a farmer had it been on a CL, but I don’t think the Site road around Marazion has changed in the twenty years we have been visiting. Work was done a few years ago, when a couple of shafts opened up, but whether that was Club or Estate, I don’t know. JK might know. Despite being a no facility Site, it’s always been a bit dearer than the others without facilities, probably making the most of its location and former popularity. We originally just used to roll in on a whim, never booked, but got caught out one year, arrived to find the “Site Full” signs up. Renaming it Marazion is a bit misleading it must be a good four miles away at least.
0 -
According to the AGM Q&A's they want to introduce it in quarter 2 of 2022 which by my reckoning is from April? If they want to introduce all changes at that time then something has to give? So what are the options? Do they cancel all bookings and ask members to rebook under the new T&C's. Maybe a bit unlikely as that would really cause a stink!!! Perhaps for a month before to put a moratorium on new bookings for a short period whilst they contact existing bookings informing them they now have to pay a deposit and select pitch type? Unless they do that I can't see how they could introduce pitch type because there has to be a cut off point where none of the pitches are booked for that to come into effect? Perhaps they will do the two things on different timetables?
David
0 -
I think they will introduce the pitch choice and deposits for all bookings, in second quarter April-June 2022. That means that the first bookings affected, will be for April-June 2023, a year later. Start of new Financial year, nothing booked by anyone yet, allows deposits and pitch type selection to work in harmony. Doesnt upset those with existing bookings, but might frustrate anyone hoping things are going to get easier for a bit longer.😁😉
2 -
Yes I think that is the timescale too.
0 -
It would be being used, as come April 22 folk will start booking April 2023 under the new system. They could even release more than 12 month ahead.
However, although I can’t see surface type booking starting until April 23, as I put before, I don’t see any reason deposits for new bookings can’t run alongside existing non deposit bookings from day one.
1 -
However, although I can’t see surface type booking starting until April 23, as I put before, I don’t see any reason deposits for new bookings can’t run alongside existing non deposit bookings from day one
Now there is a definite statement that deposits along with pitch choice will be introduced It might be prudent for the Club to let members know how it will be introduced,
peedee
3 -
Of course they'll let us know but you need to be patient, PD. All they've done so far is give us a heads up and the detail will follow in due course👍.
0 -
When they're good and ready, PD. You're champing at the bit in your eagerness 🙂
1 -
I agree. The Club have set the initial timing which is only four months away, for at least some of the changes. So having gone that far why not publish the exact details of how it is going to work? Even statutory bodies generally have to give three months notice of changes! This will be a big change and it will run more smoothly if members have sufficient warning so they can get used to it and ask questions if needed. I am still of the view that it will come as a shock to many members who don't pay much attention to forums and social media?
David
1
