Annual General Meeting
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It is what some members will pay at this time to hopefully be on a hardstand pitch at this time is normally a serviced pitch at £..4.20?per night ,which they may not have to pay if they book early enough for a normal hardstand when the system changes?
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The members it may affect are some retired folk who it seems are watching their pennies with prices
A deposit is what it is, it doesn't make sites anymore expensive, its an advanced payment with the balance to pay on or before arrival.
Withthe increase in motorhome membership it would make sense to increase non awning pitches. Most motorhome owners when touring (the norm) do not put out full awnings, a canopy perhpas but not a full awning. It would certainly be nice to see more of them on predominately grass pitch sites instead of bare muddy patches.and perhaps it could also result in a few more pitches? Godrevey was a disgrace this year so much so I will not be using it again. Moving the pegs is not a solution, the result is a muddy patch either side of the van one of which you have to step out upon.
peedee
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The cost is the same JV. It’s only the date of payment of some of the money that changes. Folks will soon get used to sorting out how they pay. Some folks get their wages/salary/pension monthly, others weekly.
I think the aim of the deposits is possibly to help with the no shows and ease some of the weekend take up to make things a bit easier.
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PD, trust me you have no chance, just walk away whilst you have your sanity👍🏻
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I know that , but as there are some who post on here as to what they can or cannot afford and then deposits no matter when. they are deducted from their pitch fees on arrival, still have to be paid from their pension be it weekly ,four weekly or monthly needs to be paid when they book a site and if on a tour could? be a substantial amount
I do hope that the deposits are high enough to deter non arrivals. ,as I posted last time they were used it was not a deterent but then several site could be booked for the same night, and members would stop at the one when they got tired of driving on long journeys,
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Rocky, add "sink in" to the list, please🙂
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In our case, if we had been using all C&CC sites it would have amounted to 39 x £25 (£975) in a couple of batches some few months apart, for May / June and September / October tours. I would have though with a bit of careful budgeting achievable. After all if finances were that tight they wouldn’t be using CAMC sites in the first place,
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The deposits will only be a control mechanism if a) they are of adequate size, b) non-refundable (but possibly transferable for the same date).
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At this stage, no one knows what the deposit amount will be, or if it will be refundable/transferable. But once paid at time of booking, the amount simply comes off the rest of the fees.
I used to book our favourite CL for 28 days, (sometimes a year in advance because it was so popular,) secure the booking with a deposit, and would then periodically pay off a certain amount so that by the time we got down there, we had the whole holiday paid for, and just enjoyed our holiday. Always found it better than paying out a large amount as we arrived on holiday.0 -
You'll find, as per the deposit system with the "other club" that popular places and pitches get booked well ahead. However the C&CC also put some extra brakes on their system, no one night stays on some sites, minimum night stays such as five nights etc etc this all adds up to quite a controlled system and it's still popular with users. What CAMC is proposing is yet to be revealed but I sincerely hope there are some "controls" as it could be cumbersome without them. If the weekend deposits are too cheap, for instance, many problems will remain.
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If the weekend deposits are too cheap, for instance, many problems will remain
Yes +1
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The simple fact is that the Club currently has a record number of Members, but hasn’t got enough Club Site pitches to accommodate them adequately at times. Exacerbated at the moment with some Sites closing early, and they lost two more Sites this year with Fakenham and Market Rasen now off the list. The staff at Marazion told us that that particular Site had been given a reprieve due to the amount of folks wanting to stay, which was well above the norm for that quiet little Site.
Even with deposits, I think there will still be quite a scramble to get some places at particular times of the year. It might need some forward thinking and getting organised to get exactly what one might want to avoid disappointment.1 -
But they say that no shows are a very minor problem and that they decreased when deposits were dropped previously, so why the change back to deposits now?
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No idea Nellie🤷♀️ I’ve never seen any actual factual references around no show figures, cannot recall Club ever hinting they were an issue, so not sure at all why the Club have now decided to consider deposits. You do see quite a few Member posts wanting them, so perhaps HQ get a lot of requests, and have decided to act? DG’s report did say that the rate of bookings this year has been unlike anything experienced before, I think a figure of 50,000 booking requests in one day was mentioned, but Minutes would clarify if this is case.
Personally, it’s not an issue for us. We don’t tend to visit Club Sites outside of Winter months usually, unless we are going to a particular event, and then I book as soon as I have the event date. Any other Club Site visits are usually very short notice.
It would be good if Club could give Members some feedback on why changes are made, as well as what is changing and how. Maybe it will happen next year, once things are finalised.
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Why is it such an anathema? You would pay in advance for any number of things from holidays to theatre/concert/Wimbledon tickets. If you require certainty then it doesn't seem unreasonable to pay, at least something, up front.
Is it even possible to have a system that provides both certainty AND flexibility without some sort of premium/advance payment? Should those who wish to ensure the certainty of a weekend pitch on their favourite/honeypot site for every weekend for the coming year be able to do so without any sort of premium/financial commitment?
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Personally I will really miss the freedom we now enjoy with the club being able to book and change bookings with such ease but it has never made economic sense to me. I would imagine the majority honour their bookings but a deposit represents a more committed approach on both sides. Let's hope the customer will now get the standard and type of pitch expected and the club have a stronger revenue base.
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+1, eloquently put CY👍🏻
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It’s a system used by hotel chains as well. Pay now, cheap, but non-refundable. Pay now, dearer, but refundable up to x days/hours before the take up date.
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