Cost of C & MC sites
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the majority of campers wont be using the assisted ones
On the sites I've used the assisted ones are usually in the one of the four or five cubicles and they have extra handrails and/or different shower heads as JVB describes, and are not just for people requiring assistance. In busy times they will be used by anyone queuing and indeed by anyone wanting that type of shower at other times. They are labelled but not locked or reserved for those needing them. There are dedicated disabled facilities as well and these reserved.
with all the 'exiting redevelopments' were being informed of, it would be nice to see a bit of modernisation/updating in that area
Not sure why existing redevelopments need quotation marks? But this is being done and has been done for many years. As I said on other sites and certainly on the more recent refurbishments there are fully dedicated shower and bath rooms which are only used by those needing them, and I think they need a key from the office. There are also now family bathrooms and baby changing rooms. Quite is a lot is being done.
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Quite a lot isn't being done to move away from the poor fixed shower heads, which are often rocked up and don't give a decent spray.
also, the fixed direction is poor, with the user needing to stand in the trough to get any decent amount of water on them.
by standing a little away from the shower itself, most of the water lands between the user and the wall.
Ive used quite a few sites this year and IMHO (of course) on the whole, not up to what i call a decent standard.
consistent, yes...consistently poor, with all sites ive used following the same (has it ever been tested?) design.
PS Id never use an assisted shower in case someone else coming in after me might require one.
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Again only applies to the sites you've been on BB, and from what I recall not that many at all, certainly this year and you do post that experience is the key ? And have you been on some of the more recently refurbished ones? If if you don't like the ones you have used why not use your onboard one - actually I thought you said you always/often did?
Also remember there is a large difference between assisted and disabled, and as you posted upthread you didn't know how many there were or even existed (as you used quotes in the assisted) so perhaps you have used one and didn't notice - they are quite similar.
But good to know you're appraising club showers and passing judgement now too
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Expensive? Just been to Rowntree Park. Try and get 24hr parking for a car, caravan, possibly an awning and with all services and required facilities in the middle of the city for anything close to that price. Impossible! Even the cheaper hotels can’t compete!
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Facilities aren’t really what we book Sites around. We go with location and places of interest first, hence where we are at the moment. We paid good money to be self sufficient in terms of showering and loo in our MH (which is no way as swish or sophisticated as many outfits) but it’s still camping to us. Not interested whatsoever in paying a huge sum of money per night to compare shower fittings or tiles on the wall. I can do that in a cottage, probably for less money per night.
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Showers on club sites do me fine and they have certainly significantly improved over the years with some of the newer sites light years so. Plenty of hot water and clean of course but that is it. I don't need anything else though welcome it is.
I can't see how a different shower head would affect my stay or shower really.
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That’s probably because you are a male with short hair Corners😁 Long hair requires a lot more of a decent spray to get rid of shampoo and conditioner, and if the ruddy outlet is a foot above you, isn’t what you get😂
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You have seen me!
And it's even shorter now as it's the start of a new term, although no longer going to school Mrs C does a 'number 2' electric razor shave at the start of every half term.
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Ive been on enough this year to see a consistent pattern. One of a similar design on all that we have used, a poor design that sprays too close to the shower itself.
yes, we do use our own shower when on a CL or THS but weve used plenty of club sites this year and the showers are lacking IMHO.
you might like them, no real surprise there, but i just happen to think there are far better ones out there which we have used and that the club's design could be easily improved on.
perhaps you need to get out there and visit some of the better sites around to get a more balanced perspective
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Perhaps an updated avatar?
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I have short hair now. Had it cut for a big birthday, mainly because two of our cars are open top, and I look like a dragged rat with long hair after a good blow down the motorway😂 Easier in MH as well, less to rinse. I clipped OH before we set off on tour, we are both low maintenance models nowadays.😁
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Like I said great to know you do this service for us all
I wonder (mathematically) how much is enough to see a pattern. There are over 200 club sites? And I see you haven't said how many recently refurbished ones you've been on? perhaps you should get out there and visit them to get a more balanced perspective?
no real surprise...you have to go personal BB? Why?
visit some of the better sites - so you're saying there are better sites out there? no other way to read that is there? But as defined by who though? I mean once again you are defining what is better. Better to you of course but not to others? You'll notice I don't do that, I only say people should make their own mind up for themselves and then choose what they like?
Well it would appear that to you a site shower, and indeed the type of head, is really important when visiting a campsite, that is great, we all have such things. To me they are more functional than anything else and even if there are better showers out there to me that is not important in having an enjoyable time, but again they are to you so that is fine too. Happy holidays!
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As you know what to expect, BB, why use them then, as no doubt those in your M/H are to your liking, and as you have just said you use your own frequently anyway. It is a shame that you have nothing better to discuss than the state of showers on campsites.
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The OP and subject matter concerns pricing, and to me that means the value we all get for those prices we pay.
is it not a customer's prerogative to comment regarding those elements they feel don't come up to scratch?
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We are not using them at the moment, but I would also agree that the fixed shower heads are not good, especially when water pressure is low. I do not mind the fixed aspect, but why can’t they have a directional end piece so you could angle the water towards the centre of the shower.
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If the pressure is OK then I have found the shower water is directed at the centre of the shower tray .,but in some places where the pressure tends to fluctuate it needs the valve open fully,,
On any site that has been upgraded with the standardised it seems new facilities blocks, the water is pumped ?via a tank of water, so I would think as most things, it is a case of evolving to meet modern standards
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Steve, exactly my point....the fixed direction of the shower heads is aimed too near to the wall and drainage trough.
im of a reasonable height but if i stand near the centre of the shower then all the water lands between me and the wall.
If some think this is satisfactory, then good for them. I dont, and made mention of it on the post-visit survey at the sites we used on our earlier tour.
no response.
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We have just spent 5 nights on the CAMC Banchory Silverbank site, and I can report that one shower in the male facilities now has a fixed shower head which can be moved to the angle you desire.......a big improvement.
Another one had the usual lift down head, the third one I did not inspect.
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Excellent piece of “live reporting” K😁
Meanwhile, here at Marazion (no showers whatsoever) there appears to be some kind of Strictly Ballroom event going on, involving motor movers🤣
Forward, back, cha cha cha. Reverse and turn, cha cha cha. Not quite right, cha cha cha.......
Not many dogs here either, or if there are, they are very quiet. I have spotted a well supervised toddler though.....
Cannot believe how peaceful this place is after dark. All you can hear is an owl hooting somewhere nearby.
All for £16 per night😉
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I really don’t understand this facilities obsession/fascination with some. When I use I go in, do what is necessary ie. lather up wash down and retreat. To be honest it’s the end result that’s important to me not the experience!
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The sites we chose were convenient for our tour, however, i did write back to the club (twice) with my observations in the hope that, as with other things apparently, they might improve things through listening to their customers
then my experience would be even more wonderful
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Continuing the digression of this thread, I see that some of the papers are saying we should "go dirty" to help the planet. John Wesley said "cleanliness is next to Godliness" but are we overly obsessed with daily showers or perhaps should we all adopt the 'submariners' practice?
Back on the original topic, I'm researching my next trip and C& CC sites are about 60% of the price of CAMC ones.
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The original post appeared to me to be about comparing cost of CAMC sites to Commercial sites. IMHO if the sites are in different locations then it is highly likely that there will be a price difference irrespective of what facilities are provided.
For us it’s always about location no matter whom provides the pitch. I feel one can always find a pitch to suit one’s personal budget though it is not been as easy for a while due to more people camping in the UK.
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Back on the original topic, I'm researching my next trip and C& CC sites are about 60% of the price of CAMC ones.
They would be for us as well but not so much for younger members. The OAP discount makes a significant difference. At least the CAMC mid week discount is available to all. We had 3 nights at a C&CC site in Northumberland in August, when OAP discount does not apply, and if they were giving the VAT discount (which they say they are, although with no price breakdown impossible to prove) the prices were slightly more than a similar CC site.
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That's been my findings, too, Steve. Without the age related discount, C&CC tend to be at least as dear as CAMC. I wonder how long before C&CC is attacked for favouring older people?🤔
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It seems there several who post on here ,who it seems try? to make this club sound expensive,? compared to what they have been to or what where they are going, it does make one wonder why , if it is so much "cheaper and better?" that it is so difficult as others post to be able to get a pitch on this clubs sites?
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that it is so difficult as others post to be able to get a pitch on this clubs sites?
Only at some sites and who ever owned these it would, in all probability, be similarly occupied for those who favour location rather than facilities..
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