Boxer/Relay blueHDI engines
Hi all - I was wondering if anyone out there has owned something on a Boxer/Relay base vehicle with both the pre-2017 HDI engines and the newer blueHDI engines and noticed a difference good or bad? I've heard mixed reviews and was wondering if anyone could help as I consider an upgrade.
Thanks!
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We had a 2017 2 litre 160 Boxer. Euro 6 with AdBlue. It was a flyer.
Currently have the latest 2.3 140 Fiat which is almost as good.
Does that help?
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Back in the mists of time we had a 2007 Fiat 3 litre. One of the first of the X250s. It was a pig and suffered from the horrendous clutch judder in reverse amongst other things. We got rid of as soon as we could. Both the 2017 and the 2021 are far superior to that.
The 2017 Peugeot did not have the stop/start but the current Fiat does. Yes, it can be turned off but you need to remember to do it each time you start the engine when setting off.
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As TW alludes to above, we have a 2021 Relay 140hp and the button to cancel the stop/start is just to the right of the steering wheel......
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I previously owned a 2015 2.2 litre Euro 6 Boxer (my avatar). Then in 2017 swapped it for the 2 litre 160bhp Adblue version. I tow an Aygo. Not much difference to be honest. I think the 2017 has the edge on acceleration. Both gave me between 28 & 32 mpg. think I’m getting more than that now with the 2017 model, maybe 34 mpg.
The 2015 model had a common fault, light bleed on the instrument pod warning lights, changed under warranty. Also, the 2017 has instrument pod illumination which I’m not sure the 2015 model had - plenty of people complained about not being able to see the Speedo.
My 2017 model had a recall on the brake pipes, but all was in order when the dealer checked them.
I tow so get through about 8 litres of Adblue every 5k - I fill up at the pump at a BP garage. I found that some of the cartons did not have a neck long enough to open the gate in the side of the van, whereas the pump neck works, is quicker and cheaper at the pump.
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March 2019 2litre Adblu Boxer engine @160 bhp in our AS,Plenty of umph when climbing in Massif Central in 2019.Only just reached 8k on it due to 2020 etc.EGR valve packed in at 2k-repaced under warranty.Spot welds on offside rear wheel arch failed at 5k.Bodywork carried out under warranty,Peugeot paid for Y2 Service after I had a conversation with them about quality etc.
Engine is quiet and returns mid 30's mipg,.Adblue consumption minimal.Vehicle happily runs along at 65mph at 2,2krpm.No other issues with the vehicle as such.
Did have to have a new plastic grille,intercooler and radiator after a pheasant went headlong into the grille aperture on the A64.Hopefully that is our 3rd and final strike.
Cannot blame Peugeot for that one!
We have subsequently fitted a supplementary metal ZunSport grille and some plastic headlamp protectors, just in case we encounter suicidal wildlife again.
Optional extra of man with red flag running ahead is not on the AS list.
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I'm surprised that Apperley's 2015 Moho had a Euro 6 engine. My previous 2016 Marquis/Peugeot 150 was still Euro 5, as is my current 2016 Carthago/Fiat 150. At least I don't have to buy Ad-Blue. I'll just become a pariah a little bit sooner.
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....as you consider an upgrade....
bear in mind that the Pauget base doesnt come with an auto option and the latest Fiat auto box is highly regarded.
some converters will build on a Ducato to allow this auto option, certainly worth considering.
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Our previous Bailey (2013) based on the 130 HP Peugeot cab. In six years no cause for complaint. The engine performed well in all circumstances and we travelled on some interesting roads in France!!! Average economy around 25 mpg bit it was 7.5 metre motorhome. Now have a Bailey motorhome (2019) with the 160 HP engine, probably a little smoother. Economy better at around late twenties but it is a smaller, lighter, vehicle at 6.6 metres.
David
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