It's a bit unfair
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Without going into each site individually, it is impossible to see how much it is going to cost and CAMC have seen fit to withhold such information unless you trawl the website for it or phone the individual site. Customer friendly ? I don't think so.
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For someone who says he doesn't use club sites and won't you do appear to keep a good eye on availability, and keen to point it out. That means 5 fives are full.
But Devon and Cornwall always have vacancies due to their location? Are non club sites full? I would think occupancy rates are more important than having every club site full?
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I don't understand that, if a site looks fully booked then they couldn't have got your money anyway?
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Good (but so are 5 club sites) but of course it might have no shows too perhaps?
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but are easy for those who can't be bothered to look elsewhere - I assume you include yourself here?
But no I disagree, this is somewhat like the club sites are full because people don't know there are better sites out there line. Both are a little insulting in my view to the thousands who use club sites. Perhaps they do know what is out there and perhaps indeed have looked elsewhere and found that club sites are exactly what they want? I give club sites users more credit in choosing a site that is best for them?
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wow, yes eye watering prices and conditions
£53 per night on a service pitch, children (from age 3 to 15) charged at £10.50, and £5 per dog.
Seven nights minimum stay in peak, £50 non refundable deposit per week, full payment required six weeks before arrival and cancel within six weeks of arrival and lose everything.
Even if you have to cancel due to national covid rules you won't get all your money as they'll keep some back due to 'direct costs' .
They do helpfully offer their 'holiday protection plan' but even that won't cover all of your money if you have to cancel within 28 days. Cancel with seven days and you'll only get 60% back.
And I must remember this when people say club sites are expensive!
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Normally the argument against booking a year in advance comes from those who have work commitments that don't allow them to easily plan so far ahead. Last year and this, there has been a new dimension called COVID. There will be those who will book and be dammed and those of a more cautious nature who will want to wait and see how things are panning out before booking. I could be wrong but I wonder if the OP fits into the latter category? We have not booked that far ahead for that very reason. We have one more booking for August but currently none beyond that as we are waiting to see how things develop. We have just come back from a three site tour, two of them Club sites. Both pretty full from my observation, maybe the odd night with an empty pitch here and there.
We debate this subject on a regular basis and I think it fair to say no one has come up with an earth shattering idea that would solve the problem that we could all agree with? The current systems seems to work well for many but others are frustrated by it. We could go to a deposit system but having lived with the current system for so long would that not be more divisive than leaving things as they are. Most of us remember the "Great Debate" on the name change where we had people coming to the forum to complain, most of whom we not seen since!!! Probably the sensible idea would be for the Club to survey all members to get a feel for where true feeling on this lay. It could then decide whether its a case of a few tweaks or wholesale change. Whatever changes might be proposed have to be fairly simple and easy to understand.
David
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I don’t know whether non Club sites are full, but Cornwall certainly is, so they are staying somewhere.
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I assume so, or could be day trippers? Either way the occupancy rates will be of more interest to the club.
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Yes you already said so but it was removed
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My frustration is with members who book weekend after weekend after weekend which effectively books out any chance members have of being able to book a whole week or more as an actual holiday, rather than just a weekend. Just search for the whole months availability on many sites, especially the very popular sites and you will see what I mean.
I feel that there should be a maximum number of bookings allowed by any one member in the hope that it might reduce this self centred approach by some!
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Just playing devil's advocate for a moment, why is it more "self centred" for working members to book, say 7 weekends during the year, than retired folk booking a whole fortnight? They are both paying the club for 14 nights stay?
Edit - if, indeed that is what is happening. Fully booked weekends do not necessarily mean it's the same members booking every one for reasons which have been discussed exhaustively before now.
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As Moulesy said, it's not necessarily the same people booking every weekend. An awful lot of people are only able to get away at weekends and if each books 1 or 2 breaks, it soon adds up to full sites at weekends and isn't at all self centred. Whichever way you look at it, there's a need to be the early bird when booking and that's particularly true this year.
As for a limit on the number of bookings, consider the effect of that on someone booking a tour of, say, a month and planning to spend just 2 or 3 nights on each site.
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I don't think it's self centred at all, no more than someone booking the max stay on a site then moving to another for another max stay and thereby stopping those who work having weekends.
When I worked I booked weekends, quite a few (and I turned up for them) what is wrong with that? I pay the same subscription as everyone else, so why should one section of the membership have more rights than others?
Also, as been pointed out before (was it TDA?) just because weekends are full it doesn't mean that is is only 'weekenders'. When we booked a week or more, we would arrive on the Friday/Saturday and to make the most of our time away we would leave on the Sunday.
The thing is club sites are popular and as said the only way to get a pitch is to book early.
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I feel that there should be a maximum number of bookings allowed by any one member in the hope that it might reduce this self centred approach by some!
What number would you suggest, we have 13 CAMC bookings in September / early October alone. As well as several C&CC. Some of those will of course be weekends or parts of weekends. I fail to see how putting together a tour is self centred. It is after all a touring club.
If a restriction was bought in the club would loose my custom, as I would look elsewhere. This year it probably wouldn’t matter to them, as they would easily fill the vacancies. However, once we get back to folk being able to holiday over there, the sites will be much less crowded out of season.
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I still get frustrated when people post this same thing over and over
As it has been said you can't book more than one site for a date the system will not let you
There are lots of reasons there are available pitches on sites, especially during a pandemic when lots of sites have had reduced capacity to keep us all safe
My real problem is a club that encourages new members with incentives when they can't give the existing members the availability we deserve.
More pitches and sites is what we need and better value for money
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There are lots of reasons there are available pitches on sites, especially during a pandemic when lots of sites have had reduced capacity to keep us all safe
I don’t recall any reduced capacity at the sites we used last September and this May / June. They were all 90% or more full every night. Well except for Culloden as they couldn’t open the facilities there.
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Cant think of anything worse than sitting for hours on end logged on to the CAMC booking site hoping for a cxlation, so that you can have a holiday, perhaps somebody could suggest that within the software they build in a facility to send you a text when a pitch becomes available as a result of a cxlation, and perhaps that is why i never use club sites and have never had difficulty finding alternative sites, mainly because i never tour during peak season July/August.
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Value for money? ; as posted before ,we had four hired motor caravans on pitches near us at FM and they were all non members so it was an extra £13per night on top of the members prices. they wished they had done it before with prices being so reasonable ,and three were going to make it a regular holiday idea ,as with their holidays it would work out much cheaper to hire and stay on cc sites than buy their motor caravans
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Steady on Rufs this is the CAMC web site you are talking about.😂 In general we would not bother either, just look for somewhere else. Might be another CAMC / C&CC or more rarely an alternative supplier. Now we are usually only looking for 2 / 3 nights a stop it is a lot easier, even in these unusually busy times.
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"Steady on Rufs this is the CAMC web site you are talking about"
did not know whether my suggestion was OTT or not, as not using booking. But my needs are probably very different from many on here, in September we are off to Devon for 1 month on the same site we stayed on last year and booked 12 months ago as we left, thought Covid might be an issue 12 months on, payed £30 deposit 12 months ago hopefully we dont loose it, but no big shakes if we do,
i see Covid infections are down to approx 36k so hopefully we will continue on a downward spirall, and hopefully no testing, paper work to prove we have had negative tests, 10 vaccines against Covid, no ham sandwiches concealed in the car, or dog food the list goes on , 4 hour drive , pitch up chill
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I'm wondering if you are retired, if so good for you , because I'm not. Other than pre booked months in advance holidays my only chances to get away are weekends. As it would appear that I fall into your frustration with members , am I going to lose any sleep over it .. sorry no. As what I do is completely within the club's rules and regs . I'm really looking forward to the time that I can get away at a drop of a hat .and then moan about people blocking weekends 😁.
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I think you have a misconceptions. about being retired and going away at "the drop of a hat" have you thought that us that have retired may also ,have to work out our time away with many medical appointments also there are many with grand children duties during school holidays to enable those working , to work,
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