A CL In the making

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  • davetommo
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    edited July 2021 #32

    I was just pointing out in case people thought that £15 was the price. I usually find when CL’s have different price bands winter is the more expensive due to increased electric use. 

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited July 2021 #33

    Yes, that’s usually the case DT. Basic CLs, no EHU don’t fluctuate as much.

  • Fisherman
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    edited July 2021 #34

    Has anyone actually seen or been in this so called CL yet?

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited July 2021 #35

    It’s not your usual CL Fisherman, quite a bit more to the Site....there are some reviews via other websites, but none on CAMC webpage.

    https://www.lagganglamping.co.uk/

     

  • harryb
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    edited July 2021 #36

     The cl opened on 3rd July just two weeks ago so hardly time for reviews to filter through yet. Although there are some favourable comments on Google. Seems the glamping side is full for the next month

  • Fisherman
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    edited July 2021 #37

    Cant get my head round the costings and the viability of a 5 van CL that all.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited July 2021 #38

    You need to look at this set up Fisherman, it’s a whole lot more than just 5 pitches. Lots of other options and activities going on that possibly make having 5 reasonably priced pitches viable, given that the other activities are also bringing in income. I think we are going to see a lot more CLs offering more than just 5 pitches in the future. In fact, I can think of at least half a dozen quickly who have gone down this route.

  • Fisherman
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    edited July 2021 #39

    I agree the days of the 5 pitch limit is over. 

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited July 2021 #40

    I don't think that is what tda is saying. It's not exceeding the limit of 5 but adding extras to the site such as pods or other forms of alternative accommodation that some CLs would be offering in the future. You do have a bee in your bonnet about the number of units allowed on CLs especially for someone that is not a club member and therefore not likely to be visiting them.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited July 2021 #41

    Correct Nellie. A five pitch CL but with other accommodation. Nothing to do with exceeding 5 outfit ruling.

  • Fisherman
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    edited July 2021 #42

    My views of the 5 rule are well known. ie not sustainable in the  expectations of modern users. Likewise not economically viable for making real alterations. its a 50/60 year rule that needs updating. My guess is that if you want to use this new site under Cl rules you probably have say 2 years until all the work is competed and the whole thing goes commercial. That is my view  and yes I have passed the age of touring but was a keen advocate of Cl's for over 40 years. I just dont want to see them all disappearing.

  • Navigateur
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    edited July 2021 #43

    The attraction of CLs to me is the low numbers. In fact, I feel slightly agrieved when the place fills up to five.   Perhaps when I reach the age of living in the back of the vehicle that I drive around in I'll be looking for overnight stops at infinite capacity locations as well.

  • brue
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    edited July 2021 #44

    I like CLs because they are limited to five vans. 

    Some CLs like this one in the Highlands are limited by geography and weather and maybe local enterprise is encouraging this type of set up with ancillary accommodation etc. to keep it viable.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited July 2021 #45

    We simply love the basic, out in the sticks ones. They are usually a little bit of heaven, full of wildlife, mainly peaceful and quiet, and it’s a joy just to park up and enjoy the tranquility. These are getting rarer nowadays, but still to be found if you search hard enough. We are trying a new to us CL next week, no EHU, so we hope it will be nice and quiet, from our point of view, the less there the better. 

  • Navigateur
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    edited July 2021 #46

     A look at the satelite views shows this site to already have an extensive set up. Bed-and-Brekfast, little rental huts, horse facilities and perhaps even more not adjoining.  Looks like the CL is a new side line.

  • Fisherman
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    edited July 2021 #47

    Takethedog-Just like you i was very much an advocate of basic. Starting off with A a self converted van, fishing and wild camping in remote areas. However things got a bit more sophisticated, the vans got better equipped and they required more facilities. ie EHU, hardstanding etc .Nowadays Vans and M/H are luxury vehicles. and very few can cope with a grass field and standpipe. To meet these requirements  sites need investment and not a few quid but substantial sums. If the Cl concept is to continue in the next 10 years and longer there has to be some amendment to the rules and yes size of field will be a major factor. Not all will want to expand but lets try and give an option. I very much hope that future generations will have a CL type experience like we did and can get away from the regimental, rule driven sites for their sanity. Perhaps the site mentioned here  is the way forward, large, multipurpose accommodation establishments.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited July 2021 #48

    Fisherman wrote "Nowadays Vans and M/H are luxury vehicles. and very few can cope with a grass field and standpipe"

    So long as the weather is benign and the surface well-drained, that is all that is required. For year-round clients hard standing would help but the need for individual fully serviced pitches and the like is overkill and five vans is never going to recoup that sort of outlay, particularly in a remote area which has an appeal to a minority.

  • Fisherman
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    edited July 2021 #49

    There is a trend towards year round use of vans these days to justify the buying costs and more flexible working or early retirements, That leads to year round site opening and with our weather the need for the infrastructure. There are I recognise a limited number who seek "minimalism" but I suspect the  majority want more, with the added cost of setting up. As an interest can someone pinpoint this site by post code or similar. Interested in seeing it

  • Navigateur
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    edited July 2021 #50

    Latitude: 57° 1' 10" N
    Longitude: 4° 14' 37" W

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited July 2021 #51

    Fish, I put up a live link to the Site a few pages back, but here it is again. Simply click on the link...

    https://www.lagganglamping.co.uk/

    You can look at everything via the Site’s website.