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I suppose it’s like all things, it would have to be looked at over a period of time, as to wether it is better or worse than other means of trying to find where they need to target there efforts. It would be interesting to have figures on how often it has been useful, as compared to sending a team on a wild goose chase.
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Erm, Steve that’s down to you not the system🤷🏻♂️
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Wrong again, old Rock.
"according to BB" the conversion offered up by W3W is then fed into the navigation system.....tomtom, gmaps etc...thats all....and it will go where its told.
...but, as Steve points out, and Bill highlights, diction is everything when attempting to convey location coordinates with words...the 'telling' can be wrong.
"cat"?.....no, "bat".....im sorry, I have a cold..
..I'm sorry too, im at the top of the wrong mountain. blooming W3W
...and with POI files to go to the top of the coredt mountain you touch goto, point on map, touch correct mountaintop....no typing required.
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As far as I'm aware W3W was developed for those that may find using GPS / Galileo / Glonas / BeiDou, too taxing
. Personally I much prefer to rely on something that can locate me to within centimetres in three dimension rather than a larger two dimensional block. 0 -
why would you think Bill and I are 'in touch'?
and why would Bill need to tell me anything when im not wrong and he agrees with me...
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It’s equally possible to mis-speak a digit or two from lat/long, Steve, or even from a simple postcode. Many a time I’ve seen PL and PO mixed up when using postcodes. Plymouth and Portsmouth, well they’re both Naval ports so it's near enough.
Human error exists in all things and even BB could dab his digit on the wrong mountain top but that's not the fault of the system.
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yes, i saw a program about the construction of the Millau bridge and how subsequent sections were guided into position by satellite location positioning.
im sure getting it to within a '3 mtr square' would have done the trick, whats a few gaps at 270m off the ground.
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all is true....but im not the one saying W3W is better or uses more modern technology, it isnt and it doesnt...
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I think that was why I was replying to Steve.
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That is very true, two walks last week in glorious hot conditions. In both there were people up there with a t shirt and shorts with trainers and no pack, just some water. Luckily the weather was good, although at about 4pm a week today I was sitting on the top of High Street it suddenly clouded over and the wind picked up and I had to put on some layers and the old faithful hat. In Penrith a few miles away it was thunder and lighting and torrential rain, if that had caught them some might have been in trouble.
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I don’t think I was saying it was better than other systems, certainly for finding campsites, that was R2B. I do think that in an emergency situation it is likely to be easier to use. I suppose you could try and read out lat / long digits over the phone, or even NG cords, if you’ve got a map and know how to do it. A post code wouldn’t be of much use in the mountains, as they cover such a large area. I think on balance reading three words, possibly clarifying using the phonetic alphabet would be easiest. Especially as so many these days carry a smart phone.
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Oh ok-what does the 4th paragraph mean then🤔🤷🏻♂️
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I was picking up on your point of mis-pronouncing the words in W3W, Steve, and attempting to demonstrate it’s the same for any system because humans can get it very wrong even though the systems are good.
I like W3W for its simplicity and ease of use. Anything that has the potential to save lives can only be good👍🏻
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I stand by it too-3 words & 3 full stops or a shed load of dots, numbers letters & degrees. . .Yup far superior👍🏻
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You know me or you should do-I have always said if I report anyone they will be told first. I don’t intend to change that now👍🏻
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If you dial 999 in the UK from a mobile the system automatically provides the emergency services system with your location. You may be asked questions to establish your bona fides and that of the call but using a mix of the GPS system in your phone and cell / mast location they can pin your location very accurately. W3W = not.really.required.
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IT - bleeding edge and straight from the ark.
Was building bridges using military satellite systems in the 80's. Within 3mm.
W3W is useful. Recently on site found Japanese Knot Weed, boss used W3W I sent an image with metadata in it. 2 systems, same result and data.
Inability of the tech generation to spell or know the phonetic alphabet don't help.
I recall being in the jungle on site when the kids had battery operated devices. They didn't understand why they couldn't buy batteries hundreds of miles from anywhere.
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On the upside I’m not a sophist like you👍🏻
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Until someone mispronounces a word. There was an account recently of at least three instances where W3W was used to give the UK emergency services a location - except that the locations turned out not to be in this country, one was even in Japan. This was put down to mispronunciation of at least one of the three words. I don't disagree that it is a simple system but the words must be spelled out phonetically to ensure finding a correct location. Speaking numbers 1 to 10 cannot easily be mispronounced or misinterpreted.
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Jm20, it all started re ‘a better way to use a satnav rather than a post code’ it was then nit picked to death. It never had anything to do with emergency service use or the spoken word👍🏻
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I think you've not read earlier posts, John.
Anyway, numbers are very easy to mis-hear. Try 5 and 9, for example. Not everyone had the old GPO telephonist training in pronunciation.🙂
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Very true, that is why we were taught it was a good idea to say niner for nine and to always read back all instructions and taking care on those with numbers.
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I was the driver and took one wrong turn after which there was no going back, and I am not a newbie as stated, I was probably driving large vehicles before most of the readers were born!
Too busy trying to drive even if there was a road sign. I hope you never take a wrong turn and become a celebrity!
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