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  • Bakers2
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    edited July 2021 #62

    Please see my comments above.

    Edit, classic it's now the page before.!

  • young thomas
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    edited July 2021 #63

    if the satnav is taking you to an accurate GPS location, like the entrance to the site (club POI files lead you to the site entrance) it will be probably be more accurate than those three little words.

    however, anyone trying to navigate to a postcode (rather than to an accurate GPS location) might find it covers a larger area...

    i learnt on my trip to France just how big a French post code is.......massive! 

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  • SteveL
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    edited July 2021 #65

    My Sat nav takes many inputs including lat / long which I use. It does not take what three words. Which is an excellent tool especially in emergency situations where verbal communication is used. As just like the phonetic alphabet it is less likely to be misunderstood.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited July 2021 #66

    I’m realising you’re not one for new things BB, you seem to be stuck in the past, there is nothing wrong with the old ways but they are always superceded by better, quicker & more user friendly things. I’ll stick to W3W thanks👍🏻

    PS-the past cannot be changed-the future is always changing🙂

  • davetommo
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    edited July 2021 #67

    PS I still use maps

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited July 2021 #69

    I’m happy for you👍🏻, each to their own I say. I like everything in my phone, easy access without it cluttering up the dash.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited July 2021 #70

    Not for a while mind🤷🏻‍♂️😞

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited July 2021 #72

    Mmmm, odd thing to say tbh🙄. I don’t share my every move on here as you like doing I do what I want to without the need for slaps on the back, I have a life that’s private. We are very different👍🏻

  • young thomas
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    edited July 2021 #73

    if the club (and other sites and third parties) provides Poi files using lat/long coordinates that are already accurate to the inch, enabling folk to find sites, pubs, cinemas etc and they are easy to load (or come pre loaded) whats the issue.

    how do you think three little words works?

    it converts those three elements into a lat/long coordinates.

    not all folk are happy to be totally depenant on a phone for all their functionality, some are more comfortable with a dedicated sat nav which may have specific features they like and are comfortable with.

    steve has mentioned how sat navs receive their input instructions and soon perhaps, adding three words as a way of plotting a destination might be added, but i havent seen any on the market yet...voice input would make this easier, but typing is still subject to getting things right and double checking where those words are taking you.

    but until then, and for those who are happy with a modern satnav (which after all is the same software that runs on phones), they will also be happy with built in POI data.....or other inputting...

    in fact, when i navigate to a place/site (on any software, google maps or sat nav) i just expand the map and touch the destination....which is either an icon or a physical tap on the map.....so i know exactly where that destination is without typing lat/long, postcode or words....i like to see it on the map and physically check the route

    i knew someone who typed Bromley for Bromsgrove.....blindly followed directions!

    even with the words, its possible to mis hear or mistype one...

    "live in the past".....no, just happy with something that works, learnt in the IT business not to live on the (b)leading edgewink

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited July 2021 #74

    BB, I think your knowledge of IT back then is far removed from today’s IT It’s a lifetime away. W3W gives me a 3mtr square to land on by pushing buttons-that’s technology👍🏻

    PS-you & I are totally different we will never agree on most things. That suits us both👍🏻, enjoy your day😊

  • davetommo
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    edited July 2021 #75

    My Dash isn’t cluttered with with a sat nav. The car does have one which is fitted in neatly at the factory. I very rarely use it.
    I had a look at that W3W, as a thick Lancastrian it looks like a lot of faf to me. As for the Phone I make sure that is well out of the way when I drive. I don’t even use the blue tooth to make it hands free. 

  • davetommo
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    edited July 2021 #76

    3 or 4 years ago on one of my school runs with the mini bus I used to go down a lane with a sign at each end saying “unsuitable for motor vehicles” . Every now and then a 44 ton artic would come down it the other way, no problem I would pull into a passing place because they were to small for him, we would give each other a friendly wave and carry on our journeys.

    Moral don’t always believe road signs.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited July 2021 #77

    DT-you said you still use Maps, we were talking about W3W I have it on my phone on the dash if you are making comparisons then you have the map on your Dash, if it isn’t on your dash then you are not looking where you are driving as you’ll have it elsewhere. If you are not making comparisons then why post🤷🏻‍♂️🤔. It’s not an issue if you got confused👍🏻

  • davetommo
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    edited July 2021 #78

    As I said I hardly ever use the sat nav. The w3w came up when sat nav were mentioned. All 3 are navigation aids.As for the map I can remember the route plotted and don’t have to keep looking at the dash. When you plot your route you remember which motorway junction to come off at and which towns to head for, so follow the road signs, they still have them even with all the technology. I used to drive wagons all over the uk and Europe before sat nav was invented so used map and roadsigns.

     What I have read on this post is not only about W3W have a look back at all that posts.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited July 2021 #79

    Ok it’s more confusion. Thanks👍🏻

  • young thomas
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    edited July 2021 #80

    the 'clever' bit of W3W is two fold...

    one, it has chopped up the world into bitesized bits...big enough for them not to be 'too many' but small enough to be able to be an 'acccurate enough' location for navigation, you'll never end up more than a couple of metres from the destination.

    two, they produced an algorithm to convert three 'words' into a set of coordinates, plotted at the centre of one of their 'bitesized' (3 mtr square) chunks.

    however, once their app has done this magic translation and you ask googlemaps to navigate there.....guess what, its navigating to a lat/long coordinate just as it would as if you'd typed it in or got it from a POI file. nothing revolutionary there.

    yes, its a different way of generating what the 'nav' bit of the satnav/phone needs...

    is it 'better'...probably depends on what the user is comfortable with.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited July 2021 #81

    Here’s the thing BB, this is impressive-the emergency services have adopted it. The emergency services need to get to the destination ASAP lives depend on it👍🏻. We have an accord. . .I am both comfortable with W3W & I’m impressed with it, folk who don’t mind wasting time can go old school, I agree👍🏻😊

  • SteveL
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    edited July 2021 #82

    As you mentioned BB what ever system you use it has to be entered some how. If I was putting them in my sat nav I can’t see that W3W would be any easier than lat and long, even if it supported the system. Where W3W comes into its own is in an emergency situation, where you don’t know the area and you can pull your phone out and easily tell folk where you are. I agree, for finding a camp site there is really nothing to choose between them, they are just different ways to achieve the same ends. As is a good map and the ability to read it.

  • SeasideBill
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    edited July 2021 #83

    Do you mean emergency services like Mountain rescuers who have recently questioned the accuracy of using the W3W App citing dozens of examples where the wrong address was given to their teams?

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited July 2021 #84

    According to BB that means old school lat/long coordinates are wrong too. Mayhap you should walk that back SB or the world will stop spinning🤷🏻‍♂️🙄

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  • SteveL
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    edited July 2021 #86

    Although when you see the lack of preparedness of some folk in the mountains. Totally inappropriate foot ware and no hard copy map for two. I would question wether they could communicate their correct position using any system.

  • SeasideBill
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    edited July 2021 #87

    The earth is a globe, there isn’t any location that can’t be pinpointed with 2 coordinates. A grid sounds like something the flat earth society would approve of. At least you’ve acknowledged it spins, that gives us hope.

  • SeasideBill
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    edited July 2021 #88

    Yes, but they’re probably in less jeopardy than reported locations that turned out to be in Vietnam?

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited July 2021 #89

    Did you contact BB to tell him he’s wrong?🤔. 

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited July 2021 #90

    Just to remind you of what you said SB I’ve quoted it for you to refresh your memory. So-if mountain rescue reckon W3W is wrong then BB who knows about these things said it’s based on Latitude/Longtitude so the age old lat/long is wrong too😱😱. Would you like to change your mind now👍🏻🤣🤣

  • SteveL
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    edited July 2021 #91

    Not quite the case R2B. If you mispronounce a word, the position could be well off. The lat and long positions are still correct for the mispronounced location.