Covid - news and views
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No because you still can breath in as there are gaps between the mask and your face and you will suck in air and any droplets through those gaps. The mask does more to prevent you passing on the virus.
Face coverings worn over the nose and mouth reduce the spread of coronavirus droplets from coughs, sneezes and speaking.
The main purpose is to protect others from Covid, rather than yourself. If everyone wears one, the risks drop for all.2 -
Most people do not wear a close fitting mask and so there is no guarantee. Because when you wear a mask and the breath from your nose goes mainly downwards there is a better chance of protecting others and particularly as there will be less projection directly at others. Not perfect but, in my view far better than nothing. My youngest daughter uses double sided dress tape such that the mask conforms to the contours. She says that it also stops her glasses steaming up.
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So it wasn't my memory at failt. Thanks, Corners👍
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Far less likely though. They are not breathing directly at you and so any virus is dissipated. This means that you are far less likely to receive a sufficiently high viral load to actually develop an infection. The cashiers were I shop also wear a mask.
The takeaway has fully screened counters and although staff are not masked my contact is limited to stepping inside for a moment to collect a bag from a small gap near the door. It remains to be seen how management deals with the situation in England
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wearing masks has affected a lot of people’s mental health do you want them to stay in there homes or go out and get back to normal. A lot of people wearing masks have them over there mouths but not over there nose.i wont ask you to take your mask of but please don’t ask me to put one on
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I take your post is correct and you have evidence to back up your claims
The only problems that seems quite a few hard of hearing folk are at a disadvantage when unable to lipread those wearing masks, me included but I do not think my mental health has been affected
As posted earlier Boris has given those an excuse not to protect others by withdrawing the mandatory wearing of masks in vulnerable areas
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Mylo, I have quickly looked at the posts above and has anyone actually said you should wear a mask?
All I can see is that people have said it is up to the individual?
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I want them to feel able to go out Mylo and I suspect that there are many who will feel more comfortable to go out and about to do their shopping in a supermarket if folks are masked. If the more vulnerable feel unable to do this I feel that to be far more damaging to their mental health. There are many vulnerable people - more than many realise.
I am not asking that you wear a mask Mylo. Do as you will.
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That is as I understand it. Professor Tim Spector said on one of his recent YT videos that there is very little, if any, evidence that COVID is passed on by infection from surfaces. That should not discourage people from practising good hand hygiene because there are lots of other bugs that can be passed on that way.
The science is pretty clear how you catch COVID. It is all to do with viral load. So the greater the amount of viral load you get the worse you are likely to suffer from the infection. Masks go some way to protecting you from getting the amount of viral load that might mean the difference between being very ill in hospital and a more mild infection. All the evidence points to transmission being in more confined spaces so you would probably be pretty safe out in the open air but as soon as you move indoors the risk increases. Screens in shops do help protect staff as the interrupt the onward airbound flow of the virus. We all know about the people that have died in Care Homes but there seems very little in the way of statistics on the number of bus drivers/taxi drivers and shop staff who have died. If the Government continue with doing away with restrictions there will be those who have no interest in the safety of others and will probably immediately abandon the use of masks regardless of situation. Many will want to continue with them but I just hope they don't open themselves to ridicule by those who think freedom is a place without masks?
David
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Prof Tim Spector (Kings College, London) does some interesting topical research. My wife is part of a long-term project using twins as the basis of genetic epidemiology. There’s a database of 10k twins which has been used extensively for Covid research - currently looking at antibodies acquired from vaccine -v- infection.
One of his recent publications focussed on the association of social distancing and face mask use with the risk of Covid-19
Major conclusion was: Individuals living in communities with the greatest social distancing had a 31% lower risk of predicted COVID-19 compared with those living in communities with poor social distancing. Self-reported ‘always’ use of face mask was associated with a 62% reduced risk of predicted COVID-19 even among individuals living in a community with poor social distancing. These findings provide support for the efficacy of mask-wearing even in settings of poor social distancing in reducing COVID-19 transmission. Despite mass vaccination campaigns in many parts of the world, continued efforts at social distancing and face mask use remain critically important in reducing the spread of COVID-19.
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The other aspect is that mask wearing does, in my view, improve the more vulnerable feeling to enter such areas to do shopping and therefore reduces isolation hopefully. I have two vulnerable daughters. One around 38 with Asthma and unable to be vaccinated and one around 48 in heart failure. I know that they would wish to shop where masks are worn.
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ET, my MiL is 88 and if we are not around to act as taxi she'll catch the bus in normal times to town. When Covid struck she stopped getting the bus and stopped wanting to go to town completely.
Just lately she has resumed but has stated that she doesn't want to do so in the near future if people are not wearing masks on the bus and in shops. We feel she might shift slightly in shops depending on the numbers in said shops but you are quite right when you say that there are more people than one would have thought who hold similar views.
Yes she has had both vaccines and yes she is in good health but like many people her age she has lost friends to this dratted Covid.
She has no problems walking around in fresh air without masks and fully understands that being in the open vastly reduces her likelihood of catching it that way.
I really do feel that Johnson has painted himself into a corner and doesn't want to maintain these restrictions so as not to lose face, not that he has anymore face to lose in my opinion. By all means open things up again but take into account the vulnerable and those who feel safer with face masks being compulsory indoors.
Just glad I don't have to commute in packed trains or buses.
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We shall simply carry on doing our own risk assessments for ourselves and our very vulnerable 92 year old Mum. I realise we are fortunate in that we have only ourselves to consider, having no children, not working, and a steady income. Our biggest concern has been not being able to see some of our family, and most of our friends, but thankfully, everyone has been sensible, only two younger members, (both teachers) have had the virus, but thankfully recovered. We have started having the odd outdoor meet up, mutually looking after each other.
Mum is our chief risk and concern, she has dementia, so simply doesn’t remember at the time why she needs to have a mask on, why she cannot wander around shops as she loves, why we are constantly asking her to use sanitising liquid etc..... Mum needs 24 hour care, which we give her.
Then there is my OH. Was on the shielding list due to a couple of serious previous health conditions, still would be vulnerable, despite double vaccinations. Again, needs to avoid the risk of getting Covid.
We have adapted and compromised, walk away from anything that doesn’t look or feel safe, but are still enjoying ourselves, taking holidays, having days out, having an outdoor coffee, using selected shops. We are very grateful to those who are providing these services, and consider us taking any precautions, as trying to help others as well, who might not be in the easy situation we are.
All we can hope is not to find ourselves in a situation with those who lack common sense, or simply don’t care. Thankfully, rare so far.
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Pssst mylo-that’s exactly what you can do soon, enjoy your freedom👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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It has been made plain by the boffins and even supported by BJ that in situations such as public transport, busy closed environments etc. that the continued wearing of masks is desirable.
The personal decision whether to comply with such advice should perhaps be guided by the exhortation to "love your neighbour as yourself".
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We will carry on wearing masks in shops and crowded places, I don't mind them for a short time shopping.
We noticed last winter that seasonal Flu was greatly reduced and even the common cold seemed to have taken a holiday. With that kind of reduction in transmission then I'm happy to carry on wearing a mask.
At some point I'm sure we will resume going to the theatre/cinema but not yet. We will use our common sense and judge each situation, pretty much what we have been doing since this whole situation erupted last year.
Doing daily 'lateral flow tests' to monitor yourself if you think you might have been in contact will work for some but for others they will just not bother. There are many professions that are supposed to do 2 a week just now and that includes school pupils. They are provided with them by the school/work but I know for a fact that many started off well but now don't bother.
We will not rely on other people to keep us safe, we will rely on our own common sense.
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If I am being honest, I have now reached the stage where I am past caring what choices others make, it is and always has been their choice, and folks will live (or possibly die) with the consequences of their actions, much as they do with other aspects of life. No use appealing or debating the pro’s and cons with anyone who has an alternative view, individual circumstances differ too much.
Happiness for us will be holidays under our own terms, meeting up safely with family and friends, not being a burden on the NHS, getting the occasional routine health care we need, enjoying different treats such as days out, eating out, but above all, knowing we and our loved ones are as safe as possible.
I can understand the degree of frustration some might feel, as not all restrictions put into place seem to have made sense, nor has the communicating of them. But much of this is now going, and the onus will be on the individual, and individual work places now to stand or fall by the choices they make.2 -
Thinking alike TG👍
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with ref to Dk comment about contracting the virus from surfaces, it has been shown that with the much enhanced cleaning of surfaces and hand holds, is also a reason that the normal spread of flu and colds has also been reduced by the cleaning of surfaces
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