Covid - news and views
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Remember when they asked the public to act responsibly and don't panic buy in supermarkets at the beginning of the epidemic. That worked out well didn't it?
I'm afraid I'm rather sceptical about the degree of common sense held by my fellow human beings.
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I despair 🥲🥲. All that sacrificing by all gone in a puff of smoke! We'll be locked down again or else we have to accept the caranage and deaths.......
Good interview on PM Radio 4 5pm, didn't catch all names, but lack of masks brought up by public transport chap. Drivers of the buses.... Staff in bars where folk can buy at the bar, official reply they could wear masks, Evan Davies reply they'll be encouraged not to for the sake of the atmosphere......
Looks like any going out for us will be sooner while the existing rules/law applies. Then back to hunckering down and more risk assessments of activities then we use now.
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Some will feel freer and some will remain more cautious, very difficult for anyone who can't have the vaccine. Hope people will still think of others, more of the same for us I think? I'm glad I'm past the age of enjoying crowded bars!
I miss the theatre and music but that problem is solved locally, our small theatre is being knocked down to make way for a 2000 seater venue!!
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Respect and a degree of understanding will be the key issues. I would hope that employers will carry out careful risk assessments for staff and visitors, and that those using services will respect any changes/restrictions put into place without rancour. One can only hope.........
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Horrified with these decisions, especially no compulsory masks in public places! Part of me can understand that things can’t be locked down forever but I’m rather afraid that ‘personal responsibility’ will just not work. Feel so sorry for the key workers too, they must feel so vulnerable.
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I was interested in the reply of Chris Whitty when as about masks which I thought was in direct opposite from what the PM was saying. It would make absolute sense for masks to be retained on public transport. What worries me about leaving it to the individual is what happens when someone wears a mask and is then taken to task or worse by someone who doesn't like them?
David
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Wonder how the relaxations of restrictions will effect Club sites?
Assume the enhanced facilities cleaning / 1pm check in / rubber bands on hooks / ban on site visitors etc will all be a thing of the past.
Bet the site wardens / managers hope so!
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We are about to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, I fear.
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It seems that the government believes that the vaccinated population is enough to outrun the virus. It has not been so much about saving deaths as saving the NHS.
Government believes that UK needs to get back to normal. I agree that it is time to live with Covid, However where I disagree is the dropping of masks in supermarkets and public transport for two main reasons. People have little choice on buying food but they can make their own decisions on other situations. Vulnerable people have had 12months+ of anxiety and people wearing masks in supermarkets etc gives them some degree of peace of mind and same for public transport.
I wonder if Ladbrokes will give odds on the possibility of public transport strikes as a result of removal of mask restrictions?
I believe that living with Covid does not mean making no mitigation in all situations. There has, rightly, been a lot of talk about mental health damage during the restrictions. Does anybody believe that removing mask wearing in shops, buses etc will aid the most vulnerable with their mental health?
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I intend to wear one whenever I’m in crowds/potential crowds. I will do this until I feel comfortable not doing it. I don’t trust anyone with my wellbeing other than me. Geez the Govt would be below the ships cat when it comes to trust🤷🏻♂️👍🏻
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There seems to be two groups in the immortal category, the young 'Billy no jabs' and the older 'Billy two jabs'. Many in my age group of the 60-70s that have had both jabs seem oblivious to the fact that although hospitilisation and death are greatly reduced, the jabs efficiency rate still poses a risk, especially to those with underlying health problems.
Although I have no underlying health problems I will pick and choose my moments where I think a face mask might be appropriate for me, such as a crowded bus, a crowded shop etc. I will be cautious for some time yet until figures appear that vaccination puts this under control, and becomes another virus like flu that is controllable for the many.
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I think BJ made an interesting point about if not now, when? There is a window between now and autumn when the risk is reduced as much inside activity is displaced by outside activity. As we know that’s a much safer environment. The vast majority of the vulnerable and adult population have been double jabbed. The science tells us the vaccine is highly effective and the data proves the weakening link between infection and serious illness. Younger people account for most new infections, but tend not to be hospitalised, just spreading it amongst themselves, developing antibodies while the reservoir for infection constantly diminishes and the virus burns itself out. We have to check-out at some time so now maybe as good as it gets? I hate wearing a mask, but I’ll continue to do so where I judge it appropriate for the safety of others.
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It is not a question, for me, that I feel safe. It is a question to ask the more vulnerable. Their are many people on prescription drugs that reduce their ability to produce the necessary antibodies etc to reach the requisite level of immunity, In my youngest daughters case she suffers with asthma and sometimes quite badly. She does wear a mask in shops but is very limited in how long she can wear one and therefore avoids supermarkets in favour of smaller shops to top up any online supermarket orders. She has been advised by doctors and hospital that, following tests, she should not take the vaccine due to various allergies and contra indications. It is for such people that I would prefer masks to remain in certain areas, not for me. The 'choice' is not theirs as they are affected by the choices of others.
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But freedom for whom? The people that work in shops or public transport? As Chris Whitty said yesterday it is about showing respect for those around us and making a judgement depending on the environment we are in. One way we can show that respect is to try and protect others. I hate wearing a mask but put up with it because I feel it protects me as well as anyone I come in contact with. It seems the Government is starting to suggest, as they did at the very beginning of the pandemic that masks were only of limited use. Strange that a few days ago the NHS said that the right type of masks in hospitals protect staff and patients alike. I know who I am more inclined to believe.
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Those who have not seen or had to live with the results of the pandemic, really do not live in the real world, I would have thought with being infected himself Boris , would have been a bit more aware that by making the wearing of face masks in shops and on public transport optional, would be another poor decision, that will open the flood gates to more of those that have little or no consideration for others
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We were told originally that mask wearing was to protect other people, not the wearer. They prevent the wearer spraying bugs over other people. If we accept that theory, then the concept of mask wearing becomes one of social responsibility rather than self protection.
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I think that mask wearing should remain compulsory on public transport, crowded areas and shops until the infection level drops and there is less chance of variants developing. After all the deaths and hardships it's a small price to pay. I, like most others, don't like the things but I will continue to wear mine in the above places. With all the people travelling to Devon this summer it will be crowded with people from all over, won't be chancing crowded places without a mask.
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yes Prof Whitty said the same last night
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I recently read that scientific research had discovered there was little chance of cross infection from touching surfaces. The main causes of transmission are by breathing it in, hence the stress on ventilation, distancing etc.
If you inside, in close proximity to someone with Covid then your chances of it being passed on is greater.
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The disease is most likely to be contracted by breathing in the droplets containing the virus exhaled by others.
We are told that it is possible to collect the virus on the fingers and contact with your mucus by rubbing your eye, picking your nose etc could lead to an infection but less likely
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