Cirencester Park access road

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  • Takethedogalong
    Takethedogalong Forum Participant Posts: 17,046 ✭✭✭
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    edited August 2020 #332

    We once towed our van through China Clay territory near St Austell. Anything to avoid hold ups at Goss Moor. Those were the days.......🤣

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2020 #333

    No that is not the case for me as many sites that I have used do not have such. One issue for me is that this site generates foot traffic and the access is needlessly poor. That needless is, for me , the issue. If CMC don't care about safety of pedestrians, cyclists, buggy pushers, mobility scooters at this location then I don't care to use the site.

    I consider myself competent but, in this matter, I cannot say the same of CMC

  • Rufs
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    edited August 2020 #334

    Has anybody thought about getting their OH to get out at entrance to road and walk some 50 or so yds in front doing a bit of traffic management, afterall we nearly all have mobile phones so 2 way comms is possible, so much fuss over a road you would probably only take your caravan down twice in any one visit, MH might be slightly different and if you travel solo could be a problem, but most solo travellers seem to have smaller units anyway cool

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited August 2020 #335

    We may never know the saga of how we got here with this position regarding the access road. My understanding is that the campsite is on land owned by the Bathurst Estate. The land the old and the new access roads are on is owner by Cirencester College so they seem to call the shots. The new access road is not good for pedestrians but in fairness neither is the road from the site towards Cirencester Park. Perhaps the Club and the Bathurst Estate could come to an agreement to put a gate in the corner of the site near the first cattle grid to aid walkers going to the Park? Before going to the site last Sunday I had a look at my old dash cam footage and it is easy to forget how bad the old road was. My suggestion to the Club would be to have a discussion with the College about converting the old access road into footpath/cycleway with access at each end which would overcome the concerns about pedestrians getting caught up with traffic, not only from the club site but also the cricket/tennis clubs. I think it would also be an advantage to College students as well?

    David

  • Rufs
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    edited August 2020 #336

    Agree to some extent re the pitches. There are a lot of narrow ones and some with undesirable slopes. The area known as millionaires row is fine, as is the huge grass area and all the new service pitches,

    Just crossed Cirencester of my list of sites, can just see all those smug faces of those on millionaires row looking down on the peasants on the grass pitches with cars parked on the A frame , 

  • moulesy
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    edited August 2020 #337

    Rufs - it's not the vans on the grass that have to park cars across the front of the van, it's a lot of the older HS pitches. The grass pitches are great, in fact away from peak season they oftend just open alternate pitches and you have masses of space! smile

  • Rufs
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    edited August 2020 #338

    thanks for update, may give it a shot, well provided you can get on, looks a good place for fidolaughing

  • moulesy
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    edited August 2020 #339

    It is one of the best club sites for dogs - not only a huge enclosed off lead area (behind the grass pitches) but access to the open space leading up to the monument adjacent to the site (but sheep often around) and a short walk through to the park itself where dogs are also allowed off lead. smile

  • SteveL
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    edited August 2020 #340

    I think the big difference between Cirencester and all these other quoted places is that this access has been deliberately built to be bad! Why would you do that?

  • SteveL
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    edited August 2020 #341

    From my reading of the planning documents, the college wanted to isolate the college from the comming and goings of CC, golf and cricket club members, including foot traffic. It would be nice if the old road could be opened as a pedestrian route for everyone. However, even if they just opened it up for students, it would remove them from a large section of road and make it easier to navigate at certain times.

  • KjellNN
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    edited August 2020 #342

    No....bends are not a problem......narrow is not a problem.........potholes not a problem (though not desirable!).........you should see some of the roads in Norway we have travelled........it's the rocks.  Just not worth risking the van getting damaged.

    We have been on quite a few sites down narrow lanes in UK too, but those lanes do not usually also serve a college, a cricket club, a tennis club, and many pedestrians, as well as a large caravan site.

  • MikeyA
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    edited August 2020 #343

    If I remember correctly you are not a typical CAMC member with a humongous twin axle for 2 people and a dog.

  • ForestR
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    edited August 2020 #344

    From OH comments whilst reading CAMC Facebook pages and the site reviews it seems many of the comments on here about the real problems starting when the cricket club and tennis club want access at the same time as caravans arriving or leaving has come to pass in the last week.

    Should be even more  interesting when college returns next month!

    Reading the recent site reviews they are not all negative but some say they will not be returning until the road is improved further.

  • adamsjl
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    edited April 2021 #345

    Sorry to be a late comer to this thread. Just wondered if anything has changed with these unit destroying rocks yet?  We love Cirencester site but my husband won’t risk taking our new (longish) outfit along that road 😢

  • JollyKernow
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    edited April 2021 #346

    Hi

    I worked at Cirencester over the winter and we had no problems whatsoever with the lane. We even had a couple of 12 meter American RV's towing trailers that had no problems. 

    The only issue is with early arrivals and the potential to meet outfits leaving site. Arrive after the stated 13.00 time and you won't go near those rocks at all. 

    Also the is now a barrier in the lane for users of the tennis and cricket club, this is to stop people parking to go walking as there is a new car park at the top of the lane.

    JK

  • scoutman
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    edited April 2021 #347

    Was at Cirencester Park site last week, plenty of long T/A caravans and equally long motorhomes  on site. They obviously got in without difficulty. It really is not as bad as some portray, work going on near the entrance of the lane by the College to develop a car park area.

  • bandgirl
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    edited April 2021 #348

    Apparently there was some work done to improve the situation after the original comments were posted.  I saw both before and after videos on YouTube by The Trudgians.  Dan posted two videos illustrating the problem, then later filmed again after the work had been done.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited April 2021 #349

    We were there in August last year and it was after they had improved the improvements! Many of the large rocks had been removed and replaced with posts set slightly further back. Plus the two laybys had been extended. The sight lines are pretty good. I was interested in what JK said about the access to the Tennis and Cricket Clubs as they both generate a fair amount of traffic but having said that it didn't cause us an issue either in or out of the site.

    David

  • Mthomo
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    edited April 2021 #350

    We were there after improvement work had taken place as well.  Access was fine.  Exit was chaos due to members trying to get on site at 1130am as people including us were trying to leave.  Definitely single lane which would work fine if people abided by the rules (they are there for a reason) and didn't try and access site before stated time.  I did complain to CAMC at the time.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited April 2021 #351

    You don't need to complain to the Club. Just make the blighters back up. When I leave a site I have three days water so can withstand quite a siege. wink

  • SteveL
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    edited April 2021 #352

    There is a storage compound at Cirencester. Whilst it wouldn’t be very sensible returning to it at 11:30, as even with the enhancements two big rigs meeting  could cause problems, I’ve no idea if it is prohibited.

  • Touareg30
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    edited July 2021 #353

    Just Arrived at Cirencester club site..

    The access road is so overgrown with grass and weeds each side the rocks are hardly visible. Making it even more cringe worthy...

    What is the club doing about improving the situation.?

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2021 #354

    I guess there isn't a lot the club can do other than ask the owner to sort it out🤷🏻‍♂️

  • Touareg30
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    edited July 2021 #355

    Talking to a few here there have been some very tense and angry stand offs with meetings half way down lane... 

    How much is a set of traffic lights.???? 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2021 #356

    Again, it’s out of the club's hands.

  • chasncath
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    edited July 2021 #357

    But didn't you notice the signs saying that the verges are eco-friendly habitats for wild life? A dent in the side of your caravan is a small price to pay for a bit of virtue signalling! It appears that Cirencester College has taken over the old access road for their exclusive use. The college has also built new blocks right up to the boundary with the club site, so some pitches are right beside and overlooked by stairwells et cetera.

  • Hja
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    edited July 2021 #358

    There have been a number of recent reviews of Cirencester commenting on difficulties in access - at least in part due to users for other facilities.

    This all must be starting to affect bookings I would have thought.  It seems that there are quite a number of people who will no longer visit who have done so before.  And given that you can assume not everyone who feels that this will comment on the forum you wonder where the future of the site lies.

  • JollyKernow
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    edited July 2021 #359

    Evening,

    I worked Cirencester in November and December last year. Admittedly traffic was slight because of lockdowns etc but we had a few RV friends stay on site in 12 meter Rv's towing trailers. Not the slightest problem with access. One of those RV's arriving met a late leaving motorhome and managed to pass eachother without issue. It's a perceived problem in my opinion.

    JK

  • SteveL
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    edited July 2021 #360

    You might consider it perceived JK and we experienced no significant problems on our visit. However, looking at the reviews there are quite a few that feature it in the negative. It’s a bit late now but surely the club should have had a bit more input at the design stage, perhaps put some money towards the project. A double width road  would have been a good start. As it is, although pot hole free, in my opinion the current access is worse than the original. It’s certainly not particularly pedestrian friendly. Which might become more of an issue, if / when a charge is made for walking through the park into town.

  • Twos more then one
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    edited July 2021 #361

    Take your time ,set your mirrors up right , keep a check where the side of your outfit is etc ,no problem 
    If you cannot do those simple things, then maybe you should consider your driving skills, and that you should not be driving the outfit you have