Speeding Survey
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Butch as in ‘Butch & Sundance’😂😂
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While not disputing what you say regarding lack of priority, BB, as I said earlier, we are where we are.
The problem, assuming it is a problem, is on existing sites. What can be done to resolve it? I don't know the answer and I doubt you or others do either. The site staff are probably the best folk to know how to deal with and resolve the issue. It'll be interesting to see results from any further monitoring.
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Weather it's one way system or not you are not on a normal one way road as found outside of campsites, You are on a campsite where children will be playing, they don't have much road sense and all they know is that they are on holiday. We as more responsible adults should be aware of that and take extra care and looking out for this, expect the unexpected sort of thing.
Yes children will go the wrong way but if you're travelling at 5mph, or less if it's very congested, then you and they will have more time to notice and stop and avoid an accident. I'm sure saying that the child or pedestrian was travelling the wrong way will be of no comfort what so ever to either party.
Likewise I don't know the answer, but site staff have responded and done something if they know. But again it is the drivers' responsibility at all times and no excusing that in any shape or form.
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Thanks for the response but-“it really isn’t that difficult” isn’t an answer it’s just more ambiguity BB & no I can’t detect it hence the post🤷🏻♂️🙁
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Layout and surface type are certainly a factor, as you state BB and demonstrated by the two sites I highlighted. Of course whilst a factor it does not excuse speeding. The signs are clear enough, unfortunately some decide to ignore them. It’s just they can at Clumber but would struggle at Balbirnie.
The main point I was trying to highlight was that with a relatively small sample size the results could be wildly under or over what is actually the case. Depending on wether they picked all sites like Clumber, or a representative mixture.2 -
As I said it would have been far better if they had put more detail into that magazine article rather than just a few column inches. I hope that more will be forthcoming?
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Not Club Site related, but speed related........we are in Borders, and since our last visit of two years ago, all the local towns we have driven through, and the one or two larger ones have a 20 mph limit in place from the entering the town to leaving it. Only seen one example of it being deliberately ignored (low slung extra loud BMW trying to look “cool”) Makes a heck of a difference when on a bike, cycles on occasion well able to go with steady flow of traffic, rather than being nudged into gutter or a nutter touching your back wheel. Big difference is noticeable when we cross back over into England.
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well not by me (I hope?)
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Well I thought we were having a reasonably civilised exchange of views until that rather condescending comment, David.
But here's the thing - in our last few years of caravanning we used almost exclusively CLs whereas, in this rather unusual year for you, you seem to be using exclusively club sites - so which of us is showing a "small view" now?
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Technically there are no speed limits for cyclists under the RTA but you can be charged with careless cycling.
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I agree with you on the main last paragraph. It is is what is suggested by the 'powers that be'. I try and avoid roads whenever possible and we're lucky up here with so many old railways, wagonways and cycle routes which means I can go over 48 miles round trip with only a few on roads, but on narrow roads where cars will try and pass within inches I also 'own' the lane as suggested by riding about one quarter/third of the way out into the road and then hopefully they have learnt the new highway code changes/proposals on passing cyclists.
btw you can go faster than 15.5 mph on an ebike
PS please take that last part in the spirit it is intended
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David, all opinions are valid and no one is superior in any way but the subject here is speeding on club sites and we can't reinvent the wheel by turning our sites into copies of Euro sites. Therefore, the issue is how to modify behaviour, if at all, with what we already have.
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I'm not quite sure where I "dismissed" your opinion; I thought I was just expressing a different, but equally valid, one. In fact, wasn't you being "dismissive" in describing my opinion as "a small world" view?
The fact remains, and no matter how many sites more than me you may have used in the past, most modern and refurbished sites in the UK, as far as I can see, are following the club layout model. It may be different to the way things are on many older sites in Europe, but it's clearly satisfying the wishes of huge numbers of folk who tour here.
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I'm interested insofar as it's good to hear of a warden dealing with the issue but not good to hear it was necessary.
How would you have ensured that driver modified his/her behaviour for the future? Do you think the warden's words will do the trick or is some other method needed?
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Ah!!! i think the operative word is "visitor", so was it a CAMC member on site or a visitor to the site, if a CAMC member i guess you can threaten to make them leave the site if they persist, but just a visitor ???, i think Southport is a bit of a race track anyway
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I assumed David used the term 'visitor' to mean a booked in paying guest as day visitors are not yet permitted on site.
It's nothing to do with Southport.
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