Covid - news and views
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Unfortunately give it a month & the India variant will be in mainland Europe as it is here, they(Europe) are around a month behind us🤷🏻♂️. We are further along the vaccine track too so they will close their borders to us to valiantly try to keep their citizens safe but it’ll still get in. It’s 60% more transmissible☹️
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Be very careful when comparing infection rates in different countries, there are many variables. The UK does a lot more testing and sequencing than most other countries, including those in Europe, and of course, the more testing carried out the more cases will be detected, and with more sequencing the more cases of the Delta variant will be found.
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I agree, but I suppose by closing their borders they will at least buy a bit more time to get folk double vaccinated. My Sister and B in L in France, similar age to me, won’t get there second jab until the beginning of July, some 2 months after we had ours. Apparently they have run out of AZ and are awaiting fresh supplies.
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I hope it works in their favour but the leaky land borders are the ones they have most of☹️. Add to that quite a few of the Countries folks in Europe are Vax skeptic, they have a shockingly low take up rate in some.
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Fair point but not ‘as it is here’ yet-almost 100%
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Good point, if you go looking for something you shouldn’t be surprised if you find it.
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This morning the BBC “travel expert” Simon Calder suggested that those staying in red and amber countries wishing to get back to Britain could stay 10 days in a green listed country, therefore avoiding quarantine when they return, not exactly in the spirit of the rules.
Let’s not forget it was international travel that brought the virus here in the first place.
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Cases tied to the delta strain were reported as being low in France, Spain and Germany, but each nation's health minister warn that the delta variant is perceived as a real threat. As of June 14, Spain reported the delta variant accounted for less than 1% of cases.
Fast forward 9 days and :
BERLIN, June 23 (Reuters) - The share of COVID-19 infections caused by the more easily transmitted Delta variant of the coronavirus has doubled in Germany in a week and is likely to gain more traction over other variants, the Robert Koch Institute public health agency said on Wednesday.
A whole genome sequencing analysis shows the Delta variant - first identified in India - accounting for 15% of infections, the Institute said, adding that "the proportion of variant B.1.617.2 (Delta) continues to increase and the proportion of this VOC (variant of concern) doubled within one week."
"The current distribution of the variants in Germany shows that it can be expected that the VOC B.1.617.2 can be expected to prevail over the other variants," it added in a report.
Chancellor Angela Merkel said earlier on Wednesday she would like other European countries to require people entering them from countries where there are high levels of the Delta variant, like Britain, to go into quarantine, as is the case in Germany.
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Not sure how that might work in practice, but Gibraltar is the only practical green zone country for UK immigration so it would depend on which countries are on their green list, currently Spain is but the rest aren’t much use to your average holidaying Brits. Either way, it involves a lot of form filling and testing. Also, I’m not sure how Gibraltar would react to becoming a staging post for Covid possibles. 99% of residents are vaccinated, but despite that they have resident cases of delta strain.
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Lots of "green list" areas in the UK, just spent 3 weeks in Cornwall, provided you are sensible and stay away from the hot spots it is a wonderful place to be and the weather was just great ,
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Spoilt by too many Chelsea/Kensington types in that place, but nice nonetheless.
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Rock is party town while St Mawes is boatie town.
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Just watching the TDF on TV. Several of the villages they have passed through have been fairly rammed. Given they have a much lower vaccination rate than us, it hardly seems sensible. I’d love to be watching live but it wouldn’t be in a village or town.
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Hope this is not a indication of things to come but I've just phoned Mrs C at work (and after saying I was sitting in the garden with a coffee and getting the usual abusive reply to that) she told me things have manic with just over 20% of the teaching staff and three full class bubbles off. Only four are confirmed cases but the rest have been tracked and traced from other contacts and have to isolate for 10 days. Apparently supply agencies have run out of staff. They must be desperate as I got a call.
Most of those staff have been double vaccinated, I suppose the good thing is that track and trace appears to be working?
Anyway she finishes for ever three weeks on Friday so I told her to enjoy it while she could, which also seemed to generate more abuse...
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Not just the TdF - I was watching the Netherlands v Czech Republic match in Budapest yesterday afternoon - a packed stadium, few, if any face coverings apparent - not sure if attendees had to show a negative test result before being allowed in, but it seemed the height of madness to me!
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This is the advice for the Puskás stadium :
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Budapest: 61,000 fans.
Stadium:Puskás Aréna
Projected attendance:61,000 fans (100%)
Proof required upon entry:For Hungarian fans: Hungarian immunity card; a negative PCR test is not sufficient for Hungarian fans.
For international fans: negative PCR test result (within 72 hours prior to match day), proof of previous COVID-19 infection or proof of vaccination (a list of accepted vaccination certificates is given by the Hungarian government here)***************
The rules are different for each ground. Amazingly, the game in Glasgow had no restrictions whatsoever for fans from wherever.
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Yes, all the spectators have to have been fully vaccinated or produce proof of a negative Covid test. 🙂
https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/visit_and_tickets/covid19_entry_requirements.html1 -
Given that today's case rate is nearly 23,000, any further experimentation seems a little foolhardy.
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Agree, this pandemic needs a different mindset now. Back in the early days when a significant % of those contracting Covid died, it was absolutely the right thing to avoid infection and transmission. Now the mortality rate is tiny in comparison. Yes, you might still be at risk of catching it, but chances are you will not be hospitalised, let alone die. I think it’s in the same territory as seasonal flu now. You could choose to lock yourself away every winter to avoid it, but few do as we don’t fear it in the way we do with Covid.
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