Wi fi charges

longtermpuller
longtermpuller Forum Participant Posts: 17
edited May 2021 in Club Membership #1

Why do we have 1 set of prices for daily, weekly, yearly use but 3 different speed bands, from 100mbs down to 1, gold silver and bronze.

the bronze daily rate should be minimal

just back from rowntree park which is bronze, could not even log on the speed was so low

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2021 #2

    You raised this before.

    Once you purchase wifi, you can log in at any site. The price would seem to be averaged. Otherwise, you would only be able to use a bronze login at a bronze site and need to buy more access for silver or gold sites and you'd not like that!

  • longtermpuller
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    edited May 2021 #3

    Unfortunately the first two sites we a booked onto 

    York rowntree park and new forest centenary are both bronze, and if I payed £30 only to find that you cannot get logged on for 4 weeks I certainly would be unhappy.

    now that cafes are fully opened I can get free wifi

     

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2021 #4

    Much. of the problems are caused by some expecting the speeds that they may get at home in. places long distances from any open reach/bt connecting cabinets and not noting that until the upgrade is completed by BT?

    And trying to stream programmes  that if the clubs info is read that at this time it is not for such purposes, just looking at the websi te and emails

    No WiFi is free you pay for it I n what you are expected to purchasewink

    The  3 grades of WiFi are what if every one on site does as requested and are all part of the club wide package

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2021 #5

    Then you're better off to do as I do. Ignore site Wi-fi and make your own arrangements. I find 4G much more reliable.👍🏻

  • Graydjames
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    edited May 2021 #6

    I have to be able to log in to my office system, [with a decent sized screen] as well as wanting good access to the web generally. Like TW, I gave up on the woeful WiFi years ago and now only use my smart phone's 4G connection linked to my laptop through the mobile hotspot. It is far superior to Wifi on any site I have been on (albeit not tried it for a long time).

    Roll on widespread 5G!

  • EmilysDad
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    edited May 2021 #7

     ... No WiFi is free you pay for it I n what you are expected to purchasewink

    It's free at work. 🙄

    It's naïve of the club to say ... here is the Interweb, but you can only use a bit of it. Oh! And you can only use it on one gadget. I'm surprised that anyone actually buys it when you can buy far better & more reliable bundles from O2/Vodafone/etc

  • young thomas
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    edited May 2021 #8

    ...and you dont need to buy specific 'data only' bundles for, say, a mifi device (which was the case a while back...)

    if theyre quick, Vodafone has a deal for existing customers to add a second 100gb for £10 a month sim to their account. this runs for 18 months.

    i bought my own mifi device (it even came with 15gb free data) and put the 100gb sim into that.

    weve been using it on this tour (3 sites so far) and its been really good. 

    as we use plenty of CLs, a 'club package' wouldnt cover all our sites. 

     

  • Tammygirl
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    edited June 2021 #9

    We gave up on site wifi years ago it was so bad.

    We bought a mifi and a card, fantastic works really well even overseas.

    I know have a smart phone with a small data package for £5 a month and so far this year it has worked well, I'm not held in a contract I stop it whenever I like or change the package for more data if required.

    Why would anyone pay for the site wifi these days undecided

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2021 #10

    Not at the price we get via the club WiFi and the amount of sites we normally use per yearwink

  • young thomas
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    edited June 2021 #11

    I think the point is that, however 'cheap' Club wifi appears to be across multiple sites in a year, its only as good as the quality and speed.

    as mentioned, the more users, the more streaming the less quality and speed, hence so many making their own arrangements.

    as customers' requirements change (downloading movies to watch later or streaming tv when reception is poor) the demand on site wifi will increase and the performance will degrade proportionately.

    some sites weve visited, here and abroad, seem to be able to deliver a pretty darn good wifi system, albeit priced from anything from free to £10 a month.

     

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited June 2021 #12

    That may be a valid point for those, like yourself, that spend a lot of time away almost exclusively on Club sites. The annual fee is good value. However those that have Smart Phones will inevitably have a data allowance within their monthly package. It therefore makes sense to use that data and whilst I have not yet used a Club site with "Super Broadband" the speed I get with my phone has certainly been a lot faster and more reliable than any WiFi on a Club site I have experienced. There are at least a couple of Club sites where there is little or no 3G/4G signal, Clumber and Buxton spring to mind, and to use Club WiFi for the odd day or two, or even the odd week,  is very expensive. 

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2021 #13

    But the Clumber park you cannot get any telephone signals, but at least you can use the clubs hotspotwink

  • young thomas
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    edited June 2021 #14

    received wisdom is that EE and Vodafone provide the most extensive and reliable coverage.

    even cheap 'plans' give good data allowances and choosing, say, a phone deal with one of these and a seperate data sim for a mifi type device with the other would cover most eventualities.

    not everyone does/wants to stay on a Club site, using prehaps a mix ot CCC, CL/CS/THS, commercials, and, as TG mentions, sites abroad....

    once the range or requirements/locations increases the more it makes sense to become independent.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited June 2021 #15

    For anyone wishing to do the NC500 then I can tell you that EE is the best network to guarantee a signal around the north and parts of the west coast. 

    I'm with Lebara who I think use O2 and OH is with 3, both of us had issues at some point of the trip, mine worked better in west than OHs but neither worked around parts of the north. 

  • SteveL
    SteveL Club Member Posts: 12,299 ✭✭✭
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    edited June 2021 #16

    That was certainly our experience. I had good 4G at Morvich, Kinlochewe and Poolewe on the EE network. OH’s on O2 was rubbish, often just 2G phone and text.

  • EasyT
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    edited June 2021 #17

    That is why I used EE Tammy. I now use Asda mobile which uses EE network

  • EmilysDad
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    edited June 2021 #18

    it used to .... but now uses Vodaphone 😉

    https://mobile.asda.com/help/network-coverage/network-provider

  • flatcoat
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    edited June 2021 #19

    The reality is the club wi-fi is simply not fit for purpose and the ‘offer’ is years behind the market competition. We have stayed on private/commercial sites with far better wi-fi performance included in the price. People want/need to stream, especially families with children or those who need occasional access to their office/business. I accept in a very few locations the wifi infrastructure/capability is outside the clubs control however that is no excuse for telling members not to stream etc. 

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2021 #20

    When you are staying in a tempory village of what could be 200 plus units at the end of a very long cable run, is it a wonder that it is asked of users not to make the system any slower by streaming

    We have some friends in Norfolk who have four neigbours and to get fibre to their houses,,,Bt want £6000 per propertyundecided

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2021 #21

    It’s not really the same thing at all but, even if it was, to use your figures £6000/200 = £30 per pitch so not bad really when each £30 could be recouped many times.

    Nah, it’s just a rubbish system 😂😂😂

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2021 #22

     Then  as I said £6000per property, in one lane , and not far from the main road so how much to run the supply to a site any distance from the nearest fibre supply, even at home we are nearer to a BT cabinet than the houses in Norfolk are and we have not got fibre broadband,its not the connection that is expensive it's the cable run.that most of the cost isundecided

  • EasyT
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    edited June 2021 #23

    Thanks for that. I am still on EE as yet. For my mobile router when needed that is on EE

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2021 #24

    Well I never!

    I could have sworn broadband already existed to site offices - I must be wrong.🤷🏻‍♂️

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2021 #25

    Nit picking againundecided it is not fibre optic though to most sites wink

    Ps I take it you have fibre optic broadband to all the park homes where you lives 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2021 #26

    It’s not nit picking at all but making a valid point.

    Indeed we do have high speed fibre broadband, and also mains electricity, water and drainage. I don’t see the relevance.🤷🏻‍♂️

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2021 #27

    I did not really expect you toundecided

  • TonyBurton
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    edited June 2021 #28

    It was a nice surprise this year to discover wi-fi is free at "The Friendly" club. Along with age concession I was well pleased. You can't expect high speeds when there are so many users in site.

     

  • flatcoat
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    edited June 2021 #29

    How is it there are many examples of non-club sites that provide Wifi with streaming at a speed and cost the ‘club’ cannot? Similar size, similar locations etc etc. Fed up of excuses. Given the apparent limitations the service should be free.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited June 2021 #30

    I think what would be interesting to know is what percentage of people onsite actually use the Club WiFi? Members now have plenty of connection alternatives which many of us use instead of Club WiFi. If onsite usage was somewhere in the region of 80% there could be an argument for it being included in the site fees. However a much lower percentage would mean that people who don't use it would also be paying for it. I appreciate that it's a well worn phrase but there is no such thing as a free lunch. Somewhere things have to be paid for either directly or indirectly. I am not sure how sustainable Club WiFi will be going into the future and wonder if the Club actually get any payback for the investment made? 

    David

  • young thomas
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    edited June 2021 #31

    I thought the situation with the 'other club' was that the system had alrady been fully paid for by members' wifi payments over the years and, as it owed them nothing, it was given back, free, to those members.

    i guess with CC, their contract with Air Angel (or whoever) is just an ongoing service rental and will never be paid for.