Why is after 8 pm considered a 'late arrival'

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  • KjellNN
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    edited May 2021 #62

    So have we, but there are those who can leave quietly, and those who do not have a clue how to do so!

    After a 4am bad experience at BHF, we have never again booked a ferry pitch.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2021 #63

    You think so? Only one poster seems to be pushing for this.

     

    ps. We have user names so as not to give away personal info which can be picked up from various sources on line. Before you know it rogues have worked out when you are away from home. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2021 #64

    This is another example of my oft-quoted inverse square law of CT. Those who want the most change use club sites the least.

    And probably wouldn't use club sites even if the changes happened.

    To the OP: as pointed out get this question raised at the next AGM

  • C9C9C9
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    edited May 2021 #65

    "This is another example of my oft-quoted inverse square law of CT. Those who want the most change use club sites the least."

    Based on what knowledge of anybodies usage?  

    I'm encouraged by the openness here to new ideas, I'm sure an AGM question will be fruitful and well-considered.  

     

  • Navigateur
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    edited May 2021 #66

    Arrivals after 8pm should be accommodated, subject to charging and remuneration structure similar to this.

    8pm tp 10pm - £50 charge.  £5 do be deducted from site fee of each ajoining pitch.

    10pm to Midnight - £100 charge. £10 (or perhaps a bit more) to be deducted each side.

    Perhaps stop there?

     

  • EmilysDad
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    edited May 2021 #67

    So .... youve never been unavoidably delayed enroute to a site? 😞

    By the same token can I get a rebate when a warden phones to myther me enroute to ask when will I'll be there when its only 5 or 6 o'clock? 😒

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited May 2021 #69

    It’s called memory ED👍🏻, you are most welcome😊

    PS-I’ve been here around 10yrs & you’ve always talked about how crap it is & how you may stop rejoining or try somewhere else👍🏻

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited May 2021 #70

    No. . .Rocky or even Mr 2Buckets😊

  • C9C9C9
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    edited May 2021 #71

    I’d happily pay punitively 50 quid, but seems unnecessary. Assuming the average site holds 50 caravans and the average stay is 3 nights and 2 wardens are required at 20 pound per hour each. That’s < 20 pence extra per booking per night for one night with extended hour.

     


    Most hotels i’ve ever been to only have one member of staff at night. Most sites only have one warden manning the desk (if any) unless they run a shop. 

  • C9C9C9
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    edited May 2021 #72

    This has happened to me with a LNA, very unpleasant. Child being sick in car but I couldn’t stop cause rushing to a site before the barrier closes. Phoned in advanced - not interested. 

  • peedee
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    edited May 2021 #73

    This is another example of my oft-quoted inverse square law of CT. Those who want the most change use club sites the least.

    I would have thought that is to be expected if those members are not entirely satisfied with the arrangements.

    peedee

  • SteveL
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    edited May 2021 #74

    But that is usually in a car or walking. Have you heard the noise some folk make putting a MH up on ramps.😂

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2021 #76

    So change the club for the few who claim not to use club sites rather than 'listen' to the the majority who do use them and keep coming back for more? And that of course is the proof, the strong renewal rate quoted in the AGM minutes. 

    It is not expected at all. If I don't like a particular product anywhere I simply don't buy it and/or go somewhere. If I want to join a club or society I look at what is being offered then accept or not. What I do not do is buy/join then post on that product's website that they should change their ways to suit me or complain about the services offered while not using them. 

    You have posted quite a bit about wanting change (metering, deposits, now key barriers) and doing mini surveys about late cancellations, reading, or rather urging people to read, AGM minutes, posting letters from marketing people … yet you claim to be not bothered about using club sites and claim not to use them often. Your right but it does leave me puzzled. 

     

  • C9C9C9
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    edited May 2021 #77

    Agreed the problem is worse. 

  • C9C9C9
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    edited May 2021 #78

    I forgot two people per pitch on average, so can half that number. 

  • C9C9C9
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    edited May 2021 #79

    At 40 mph, ensuring arrival before barriers close(say half an hour safety net). Leaving at 6 pm - you can travel 60 miles! Great! 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited May 2021 #80

    what barriers close? The barriers are opened by the wardens.

  • C9C9C9
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    edited May 2021 #81

    The barriers are the things at the front of the site that prevent entry if you arrive after 8 pm.  You are correct, typically the wardens operate them. 

  • EasyT
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    edited May 2021 #82

    Good luck with that at present. 

  • allanandjean
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    edited May 2021 #83

    Hi, But the situation is one you have chosen to put yourself in.

    Based on the info you have given your choice appears ambitious at best and very likely to lead to repeated disappointments.

    Maybe try something a little closer to home for those trips when you are restricted as you have described?

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2021 #84

    I suggested the same. Travel a lesser distance. When we worked we did as you quote and travelled 60 miles for weekends away. Sometimes it took 2 hours but sometimes closer to 1 and it was manageable and didn't get us into the stressed state that you seem to achieve.

    You seem unwilling to compromise but want everyone to accommodate your requirements when the remedy is in your own hands. Give and take, bend to fit the system. The world isn't all about you.

  • MikeyA
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    edited May 2021 #85

    Even 60 miles seems a long way when you will have to be off by 12.00 on the Sunday. 

  • C9C9C9
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    edited May 2021 #86

    The world isn't all about me, nor you (which unsuprisingly this doesn't affect because you don't work).  I question the policy, you provide your opinion, I'm fine you disagree.

     

    It seems at least a handful of people are like minded, so the question is of merit.  

     

    I'm perfectly flexible and work within the current system, are you? I've also made it clear I would not want the policy to change for me - only for the wider benefit of families and working individuals who like to travel further than 60 miles at the weekend.

     

  • C9C9C9
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    edited May 2021 #87

    Hi, But the situation is one you have chosen to put yourself in.

     

    Undoubtedly it is my problem inasmuch as I happily choose to caravan with the caravan club and will continue to do so.  I guess my unanswered question is '8 pm late'?  The best answer I've heard is that noise is an issue, and this would deter people from a policy change (though 8pm still seems an early watershed for this, I understand the objection). The worst answer is that it would be impossible to foresee staff working after 8 pm - which in other industries is common practise.   

    As for options, I've done both short trips and long.

    To give an example, leaving the driveway at about 5 assuming some leniency from work after collecting the kids from School ~100 miles from experience is possible.  For other people with stricter working rules, 100 miles would be ambitious at best.            

  • SteveL
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    edited May 2021 #88

    You don’t say where you live. According to the App we have 16 CAMC sites within that radius. Several of them within 30 / 40. I know everyone isn’t as lucky and that in some areas sites are thin on the ground. However, there are plenty of alternatives. Apart from anything else towing 150 miles for a weekend doesn’t do much for your carbon footprint.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited May 2021 #89

    It the clinical sites I mostly object to .... rows of caravans parked to a peg.  I didn't auto renew last year & I'll be using a none club site next month.

  • C9C9C9
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    edited May 2021 #90

    That's a good range.  It might be just me, but I prefer to travel to places to stay overnight that I couldn't just visit by car then drive home again.  

     

    'Apart from anything else towing 150 miles for a weekend doesn’t do much for your carbon footprint.'

     

    You'll probably like me even less, but this is not something I particular care about. Moving a heavy mass a long distance without a nuclear power station attached is not going to be carbon friendly in the UK.   

  • SteveL
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    edited May 2021 #91

    You'll probably like me even less, but this is not something I particular care about. Moving a heavy mass a long distance without a nuclear power station attached is not going to be carbon friendly in the UK.

    Totally agree but there are things we can do to minimise the impact. For instance taking my time getting to a site when towing returned significantly better Mpg than rushing.