The Ospreys are back !!

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited May 2021 #242

    I personally don’t suggest anything, I was quoting the experts. Ospreys are deserving of a place in the natural world away from nasty self serving people is my suggestion. I’m with the caring Welsh folk that the perpetrators will be caught & punished. Your opinion is yours mine is mine we are in opposing corners I don’t expect your opinion being from a conservators position as you take life my position is from the love of the wildlife with no lives taken. We will never agree so I will leave you to your position on this point👍🏻

  • Fisherman
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    edited May 2021 #243

    What a wild statement. In my own little way I have probably done more for the environment than most.

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2021 #244

    With money from agencies to do itcool

  • Fisherman
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    edited May 2021 #245

    Such as

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2021 #246

    All those willing to give money to help with conservation, that the farming community say its needed,to carry it outundecided  ,

  • Fisherman
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    edited May 2021 #247

    The ignorance shown here is stunning. One example-see the Posts on 
    "Acorns" I planted seeds in a nursery bed last Autumn. Seedlings now grown ready for planting this Autumn. They will be used to replace the  Ash that are being felled because of Ash Die Back. How did that occur. Some misguided "environists" thought they could import plants to reforest somewhere. Unfortunately (diseased) to meet their "Grant" time table. Result wholesale destruction of our native trees. My little tree planting will cost no one anything. Practical thought out  environmental project. Plenty of other examples.

  • scoutman
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    edited May 2021 #248

    Why oh why must posts on here degenerate into a series of petty snipping arguments between a few protagonists? The fact remains that an illegal attack on a protected species has occured. I am sure all authorities concerned will be investigating seriously with a view to early prosecution.

  • Wherenext
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    edited May 2021 #249

    Couldn't agree more Scoutman.

    I Deleted User a similar post as yours myself in order to give myself time to calm down.

    Leave this thread to the Osprey watchers and start a different thread if those that want arguments want to continue.

  • Fisherman
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    edited May 2021 #250

    I fully agree with those sentiments but some of the unsubstantiated dribble gets your back up and you feel you have to respond. Will now go for a lie down.  Like everyone else I hope the idiots who cut down the nest are caught and dealt with severely. End of

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited May 2021 #251

    Updates are available on both the North Wales Wildlife Trust web site and the BBC Wales news. I won't repeat them, just to say that there are a couple of new nest sites that they hope the pair will choose and lay their eggs.

  • ABM
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    edited May 2021 #252

    And it goes on and on and . . . . . . .

    A female peregrine has been found dead in the Clee Hill Area as well as the poisoned pigeon that was used as bait.  It is believed that the Male peregrine was also poisoned, but had not been found at the time the BBC published the information.

  • ABM
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    edited May 2021 #253

    Nellie,  I've recently read MillieH's posts about hanging up her & her OH's Site Guides and certainly needed cheering up, so chanced my arm and looked up Carnyx Wild, Loch Garten.  Despite it being a right rubbish picture at least I've seen two osprey sitting on the nest in my very everso fave forest  laughing    For want of anything better to say ---  Woohoo, Yeehah  cool - Might just might even get the good book out and think about heading somewhere spectacular, if that is we are permitted that far over the northern border  !!

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited May 2021 #254

    Try this link, ABM, it's for the RSPB Garten web page. Lots of photos of the pair, named Mistle and Axel by the correspondents, although not yet confirmed by the site wardens. They have bonded and mated frequently but Axel is not good at bringing the fish yet.

    https://community.rspb.org.uk/placvestovisit/lochgartenospreys/f/loch-garten-ospreys/276742/loch-garten-daily-obs-captures-may-2021#pifragment-4292=22

     

  • ABM
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    edited May 2021 #255

    AH, thank you Nellie, 

    Found the Problem with the lousy picture ~~ lightning strike took down the wifi, camera etc but although he did what a man's gotta do it is too late in the season for Carnyx man to climb to the nest and fix / change the camera -- so "merrily we'll limp along "  at least until any wobbleheads arrive & need ringing. They may then do a frantic camera swap at the same time, perhaps.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited May 2021 #256

    Here's as long summary of today exp!lots at LG, just for you ABM.

    They really have been wonderful today.  A fish.  Nearly all the time one or 'tuther has been on nest.  They have shared the fish too

    Just for the record. from about 10.00

     

    10.47.54       Mistle returned to the nest, possibly defending against unseen intruder

    10.48.00        Mistle looks behind her intently

    10.50.18       Mistle reacts to unseen intruder that appears to fly around the nest.  She turns 360 degrees, shadow seen as osprey flies down and past the nest                     – carrying a fish?

                          Carrying a fish, blue Darvic on left leg and BTO on the right leg

    10.51            Intruder still around

    10.54              Mistle intruder calls and mantles again.  It's overhead, flash of wing on the top fish of the screen

    10.55.17        Mistle takes off – after intruder, or to get away.

    10.55.57        Mistle returns alert

    10.57.47        Mistle mantles, calls

    10.58.10        F unringed intruder tries to land, Mistle rises and attacks her, seeing her off

    11.01.57        Mistle shakes her feathers.  Incident over?

    11.20              Mistle calling for fish – is Axel within sight?

    11.38              FISH  Axel arrives with a headless fish.  Just the one up to 18.03

    11.38.36        Mistle takes off with the fish

    11.41            Axel flies off

    11.45            Osprey, Mistle?,  found on a tree

    11.48.20        Cam pans and back to the nest

    12.20            Cam pans again, and finds Mistle ? eating a fish on a tall dead pine

    12.24.30         Cam pans again, back to branch of  open tree top- osprey preening.

    12.24.52        Close-up – it's Mistle – weird   It's Axel, keeping guard!

    12.33.03         Axel returns to the nest

    12.35.57         Axel flies

    12.38.35          Axel and Mistle return.  Leftover fish transferred with a struggle.  Axel takes it and flies off

    12.42.57         Mistle is pottering

    13.22               Mistle still sitting doing little.

    13.37.20          Axel returns with the fish tail.  Mistle takes it.  The fish lies to the left of her talons

    13.40               Axel flew off and returned to mate – it is quite windy.  I'm not sure whether it was a success

                            Axel flew off again and stayed away this time.

    13.58.4           Axel returned, and wanders around the nest.

    14.00.5           Axel flew off

    14.09.18        Mistle picked up the tail end and started to eat.

    14.11              Mistle flew off with the fish tail

    14.12               Axel returned – where's the fish?!!

    14.23.50         Mistle brought the fish tail back.  Axel pulled and tugged to get it from her grasp.  She hung on.  He had another go and she pecked him!

    14.25.20         Axel it roaming the nest, and has another go at pinching the fish.  Mistle is having nothing of it.  Axel flew off.

    14.28               Cam went roaming again, looking for Axel.

    14.30              Found him on a tree perch                     

    14.34.32         Back to the nest, and Mistle, just standing.

    14.52.40         Mistle ate some more fish.  Raining.

    15.18.07          Continuing to eat

    15.26              She is down to the tail fin.  A shake of the head and it's gone.

    15.29                A bit of twig moving, and towards the cup.

    15.35.48          Axel lands on her back – and a successful mating with gusto!

                            Axel flew off.  Mistle flaps her wings and gives her feathers a shake before cleaning her bill on a handy piece of wood.

    15.47.30          Mistle has flown

    15.48.34          Axel returned

    15.44.02         Axel had flown

    16.14.58          Mistle has returned

    16.16.40         Axel lands on her back – not sure whether it was successful. 

                            Axel flew off

    16.59.36         Mistle has flown  ENS

    17.04.54         Mistle landed on the far rim, looking very wet - it was raining earlier

                           Followed by Axel, who landed on 'our' side, he took looks wet.  It's continued to rain I assume.

    17.10.49        Axel flew off

    Mistel remains on the nest.

    edit:  18.15  Mistle has flown

  • ABM
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    edited May 2021 #257

    Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you ~~ so much going on that  Brian won't need to read about moles at Duncton Wood tonight  will he  wink

    And I seem to recall that we have been thro' this scenario with a young male osprey in the recent past  surprised.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited May 2021 #258

    Much more going on there today, ABV, including the delivery of a huge fish. It does look promising, but we'll just have to wait and see, with fingers crossed.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited May 2021 #259

    ABV, this article should be of interest to you, and other Osprey watchers too I think. Although it relates specifically to the LoTL pair it general for most Ospreys

    https://scottishwildlifetrust.org.uk/2021/05/an-eggstraordinary-journey/

     

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited May 2021 #260

    I missed it yesterday, but the first chick, in the observed nests, arrived yesterday at around 3 pm at the Manton Bay nest at Rutland.laughing

  • ABM
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    edited May 2021 #261

     Indeed Nellie, just had a quick peep at the Manton Bay chick --  should have a sibling very soon if all goes well.  Makes getting up & playing on here early doors well worth the effort !

    Did see the LG  'History Lesson'  reminding me of the very unofficial military protection scheme put in place a long time ago, and the resulting  loading of the NHS Services that occurred  innocent. { If Only , , , , , , , , }

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited May 2021 #262

    I'm up to speed with the LG history. These Osprey watchers certainly have done their research.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited May 2021 #263

    Things are not looking good at LG, as the pair have not been seen around the best all day, following an incursion by another male Osprey.frown

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited May 2021 #264

    Things are looking a bit grim at Loch Garten, ABM, as there's been no sign of the pair on the nest for the last couple,of days, although there is definitely still at least one Osprey in the area.

  • Wherenext
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    edited May 2021 #265

    😥

    Fingers crossed Nellie.🤞

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited May 2021 #266

    There's an interesting article on the Glaslyn website.

    https://www.glaslynwildlife.co.uk

    In the news section:-     KS8 – FOOD FOR THOUGHT

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited May 2021 #267

    Don't hold out much hope, unfortunately, WN. At least for this year, but they now know where there's a nest and may return next year as a pair with more success.

  • ABM
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    edited May 2021 #268

    Sorry to be sooo late in responding, Nellie, but I've been playing with my new TV today  -- nothing's ever perfect straight out of the box is it frown.

    I'll have a bit more time in the morning tho',  before the footy-madness starts  wink

  • Fisherman
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    edited May 2021 #269

    Are the Brenig Ospreys the most unlucky? the destroyed nest was rebuilt but now taken over by a goose. No info regarding the vandals but hey its not a Traffic offence so what do we expect.

  • scoutman
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    edited May 2021 #270

    Let's hope that giant "cuckoo" clears off soon. But they have a second temporary nest  built on a hydraulic platform. Presently we are at Shawsmeed site and managed to take the opportunity of a break in the showers to visit Bwlch Nant yr Arian to view the Red Kite feeding, spectacular !

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited May 2021 #271

    This bad weather seems to have taken it's toll on the new born chicks. Some distressing stories on th RSPB next web sites.