Engines running....

Cajip
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edited May 2021 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

Currently at Hebden Bridge on a serviced pitch opposite the motorhome service point and not far from the waiting area for booking in. I have noticed that the majority of motorhome drivers either using the service point or waiting to book in sit with their engines running. Not being a motorhomer I'm not sure why this should be but would argue it demonstrates a lack of environmental awareness and little consideration for those site users that suffer the unnecessary noise pollution. Please consider the environment and other site users and switch your engines off when stationery. 

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2021 #3

    Fortunately, the modern day engines are very clean so won’t be polluting the environment but that doesn't remove the nuisance factor.

    Like, BB, our engine won’t be left running unnecessarily.

    I suspect those who don’t turn off, whether it be tow car while coupling/uncoupling or MH, are simply thoughtless. Perhaps have a word in their ear, Cajip.

  • ABM
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    edited May 2021 #5

    Oh come on E D, you don't really want to be like A B M , do you ?? innocent

  • KjellNN
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    edited May 2021 #6

    I can only agree.

  • cyberyacht
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    edited May 2021 #7

    With fuel the price it is, who are these plutocratic individuals?

  • MikeyA
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    edited May 2021 #8

    The same ones who use Club sites in high season. 🤔

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2021 #9

    To keep the Co.pilot comfortable and in a Good mood winkas most have air con fitted as standard,,surprised

  • JVB66
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    edited May 2021 #10

    Its called as most other expensive outlays "spending the kids inheritance"cool

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited May 2021 #11

    We find that the worst offenders are those with older M/Hs who, when preparing to leave a site early, leave the engine running so as they have sufficient heat in the cabs to demist their windows and "warm up" their engines for many minutes while they go about all the other tasks they must do in readiness for their departure.

  • KjellNN
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    edited May 2021 #12

    Agree Nellie.   They have no consideration for their close neighbours who have to bear the exhaust fumes.

    A few years back we were, unfortunately, pitched opposite the MH service point at York Beechwood, almost every MH tried to kept their engine running.   After a couple had done so, OH went over and asked them to stop as the fumes were very unpleasant.

    DD has a similar problem at her house.  Her next door neighbours are school playing fields, a private school, and buses bring the kids to rugby/hockey/football/cricket, and now additional classrooms placed in the car park, and park on the street alongside her back garden.

    These bus drivers think it is  fine to keep engines running, discharging fumes directly into her garden where her children are playing or sleeping, and adults are sitting.  It is most unpleasant.

    OH has several times spoken with the drivers and the school, but it still happens.  The drivers do turn off their engines when asked,  but why  do they think it is fine  to do it in the first place?

  • ADP1963
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    edited May 2021 #13

    Why would anyone towing leave their engine running to hook up ?, surely working in fumes is uncomfortable, dangerous and at a cost.undecided 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2021 #14

    Common sense really. Some folk still do it though 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • EmilysDad
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    edited May 2021 #16

    or how many times they open them & then SLAM the blasted things .... especially sliding side doors!!!!!!!!

  • EmilysDad
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    edited May 2021 #17

    I'm probably guilty of this but not by a conscious effort. I just don't like stop & start the engine frequently ... my STOP/START is turned off each journey, but it takes seconds to hitch up, attach the break-away & plug in.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2021 #18

    I've got one of them! 😀

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2021 #20

    Guess you won’t be our neighbour then, David. 🥲

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  • kenexton
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    edited May 2021 #22

    Leaving a modern Diesel engine(Euro6.2) like ours idling for an extended period -   just after start up -is not a sensible thing to do.The engine does not get hot enough and a fault code from the NOx sensor may soon appear on the engine management system.I know this because it happened to me when trying to get some power back into the starter battery during depths of Lockdown.I know that it would have been best to go for a drive but the reactions of others to my swanning about in an MH had to be considered as well.So,AD,I am not a campsite engine idler but I do open/close  my sliding door due to being too old and arthritic to emulate the Dukes of Hazzard.

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited May 2021 #23

     But what happens when the guy with the sliding door M/H takes the empty pitch next to the one you are already set up on, AD? Do you up sticks and move to another pitch between 2 caravans, or look for an end pitch with nowt on one side and a caravan on the other?

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2021 #24

    Well, that’s something 🤣

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  • JVB66
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    edited May 2021 #26

    I think that is what most people would understand from my postwink

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  • DavidKlyne
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    edited May 2021 #28

    Many years ago, I think in either Austria or Germany I was trying to help an older English guy who was having problems with his car which he had to leave running for fear of it not restarting. The nearby German guy was most unhappy even though I tried to explain the problem my fellow Brit was having!!

    There is no reason why if an engine is performing correctly that any engine needs to be left running. Someone mentioned clearing the windscreen, wouldn't this be done before leaving your pitch? If it really is an issue, which I am not convinced it is, it would be easy enough to have some signs on service points asking for engines to be switched off?

    David

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2021 #29

    They can be closed quietly but need to be slammed to engage the latch. I suppose it's much the same as car doors which need a bit of force to ensure they shut securely. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • JollyKernow
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    edited May 2021 #30

     Mee too!surprised

    JK

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited May 2021 #31

    My thoughts too. What could be simpler than a notice requesting "Please turn off your engine when using this service point"?

    I suppose that goes against the club's latest thinking in removing signs. Remember "Everyone loves your dog - on a lead"?