CL Site Owners' Website
Comments
-
Given the availability of solar, lithium, refillable gas and inverters, why is there a need for EHU. Both CL's and CAMC could save on infrastructure, reduce prices and individual members could use as much out as little energy as they wished.
1 -
Yesterday I put the heating on in the van between 11.00am and 18.00pm on the low setting with the thermostat set at 12 degrees C. I noted from my Smart Meter that I had used about 80p worth of electricity. Had I left it on for 24 hours it would have cost approx £2.50, now imagine if the van was being used for real. I would have had the heating on full, I would have had the water heater on and the fridge and would have used the microwave. So I imagine I would have used at least twice that amount of electricity probably more. I mention this just to illustrate how much electricity our units use. Obviously the cost to the site could have been reduced if I had use a mix of gas and electric but I wonder how many do that. So Ted's point about £5 to £8 a day does not seem unrealistic. I wonder how many would be prepared to accept an extra charge of £5 a night during the winter. It seems metering might have some merit?
David
2 -
Yep, come and see the Cornish cliff top car parks😤
0 -
Can I remind folks that this thread is about supporting the CLs so can we please keep it on topic. If you want to discuss wild camping, please start a new thread.
Thank You.
2 -
I suspect touring folks who Winter tour like we do are going to be priced off a good few CLs. I have no issue paying for the electric we use, but I am blowed if I am going to subsidise the huge outfits that sit all day with the heating, water and TV sucking away at the bollard, while we are unhooked and out and about, using our gas to cook with. Sorry, but that’s the blunt view from our perspective. We shall simply go where economy of scale means that the price is a lot cheaper, yet just as nice, on small private Sites. Even in Winter we are off pitch by 10am, back in by 6pm, sometimes later if we eat out.
2 -
Lots of CLs have alternative accommodation Harry, and very nice provision as well. We use one that has a beautiful garden room, equipped for the less mobile, and my Mum and Sister come away with us. They eat in the MH with us, on the CL, and the owner doesn’t mind if we all sit in the Garden Room either. Others have pods, yurts, shepherd huts, cottages, even separate tenting areas. It’s quite common now.
1 -
You would have to ask the CAMC that Harry, but common sense tells me that the CAMC will only be involved in licensing the 5 pitch area that the CL owner decides to use as a CL.
Anything else is surely nothing to do with the Club, but all to do with what the land owner decides to do with their property, and being a regular user of other forms of holiday accommodation, be it tent, hut, pod, B&B, cottage, static van, converted barn or wigwam, I work on the basis that if the owner is advertising it for let, hire to me, they will have the necessary planning and safety permits in place.
We have used CLs for 30 plus years, and in that time have come across a multitude of set ups from just five pitches in a fenced area, to five pitches plus a small private site adjacent, to a CL and a CS at the same location, to CLs with a pub, CLs with a Leisure Centre adjacent, CLs with canal boats moored up, etc.........Its the beautiful diversity of what is out there.😁
0 -
If metering became the normal then you might just find it cheaper to go down the safefill route and run your heating off gas. I can imagine just how much it costs in electric to run Alde heating, as I can get through a 10kg safefill in 4 days using the heating
0 -
Not a faff for me as I refil the safefill bottle at a pump next door to the calor depot about 10 mins from home. Plus by the time I have waited to get served then waited for a new bottle to be brought to me at the calor depot I could have filled 3 10 kg bottles.
Calor depot won’t allow refilling. I wonder why?2 -
Why do you need your know?
Is a CL owners expenditure and pricing not his own affair?
2 -
I would like to know because as the price of electric crops up regular it would be nice to know how much of the pitch pice is for Electric. As for pricing being his affair I would also think that it is also the customers affair. Or let’s put it another way if they meter the electric how much would the pitch fee reduce..
1 -
DT, don’t know if you have looked at the link in Ted’s opening post, but there is a bit about electricity and hook ups.............
Probably the most discussed issue for CL owners is the cost of providing Electric Hook Up (EHU) to members. Modern caravans now use electricity (rather than gas) for heating during colder spells. This fact, coupled with the assumption by some members that their pitch fee includes as much EHU as they like, can lead to spiralling costs for unwary CL owners.An increasing number of CL owners are therefore either a) increasing their pitch fees for winter months by as much as £5/night or b) installing meters on each pitch so that they can ask for a reim bursement for electricity used. This has to be at cost (as per OFGEM regulations) as you are not al lowed to resell Electricity at a profit. As the popularity of electric cars increases (and the usage of awning heaters, washing machines and electric grills to name a few), CL owners are advised to keep a close eye on EHU usage and respond accordingly. EHU bollards must be tested by an electrician regularly and the results provided to the club.
This gives a bit of an insight, but given that there are just so many variables around each individual CL and it’s set up/ running costs, I doubt that anyone could give you a definitive answer, even if they chose to divulge their personal business plan.
2 -
I know, just off the top of my head, of a couple of CLs that have Glamping pods and another that has a Shepherd's Hut for hire. There are also others with cottage type accommodation to rent.
2 -
The only concern of the customer is how much he has to pay which is either found acceptable or not. Do you go into a supermarket and strive to break down their costs?
As for how much pitch fees might reduce if electricity was metered, there are far too many unknown and variable factors to determine this. You're effectively asking how long is a piece of string.
2
