The End of Analogue Phone Lines

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited January 2021 #32

    Stop using the landline phones & use your mobile JV👍🏻. No charge, you are most welcome🙂

  • brue
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    edited January 2021 #33

    We've been in a similar postion, slow broadband connections and poor mobile reception. A big upgrading has started via Gigaclear in our area. However it's slow progress although the teams of EU workers have been battling away in all weathers and disruptions to road networks etc. We have a limited choice of "partners" when linking up to the system. I presume there are many places which are still not connected.

  • DSB
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    edited January 2021 #34

    We have a digital landline handset, but I'm not sure about the actual line.  Just used Mr Google and get the impression that digital handsets can work on non-digital land lines.  I assume that if the line is not digital, it will be upgraded before the analogue system is switched off.

    We tend not to use that land line too much anyway.  We keep it just to make sure we don't miss any 'cold callers'... 🤣🤣.  Other than getting calls from the mother-in-law (who still uses the land line as her main communication device), it appears that to receive cold calls is its main function!!!

    We generally use the mobile these days, as we have unlimited included phone call minutes...

    David

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited January 2021 #35

    I would have thought that if people have a good mobile signal that would be the way to go but unfortunately I don't feel the signal we have is yet good enough to do away with the landline. Also because we have a three phone Panasonic system connected to our landline it means we can hear the phone ring anywhere in the house.

    David

  • heddlo
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    edited January 2021 #36

    Exactly the same here David.  I want to be able to hear the phone anywhere indoors not only if I’m near the mobile!  

  • cyberyacht
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    edited January 2021 #37

    Our landline developed a fault that the engineer couldn't find so switched us to a VOIP line. Trouble is, I used to switch off the router at night and when away in the MH. Lose the phone if I do that now.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2021 #38

    Certainly if I'm doing an important call it will on the landline and not on the mobile.

    Jut a thought but how will one call about a fault in the power supply?

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited January 2021 #39

    Errrr🤔.   We've got a few pigeons visit our garden so I guess we'll call one of them into service.

    Seriously, though, it does raise all sorts of questions but no doubt all will become clear in time.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2021 #40

    safety reasons? At most your router will use about 1.5 pence for 24 hours, so assuming it's off for 8 hours, you're saving 0.5p per night or £1.80 a year. 

  • davetommo
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    edited January 2021 #41

    They are going to be busy, because all the phone lines that radiate from the telephone poles in the streets to houses have a copper wire from the pole to the house. New build house have a fibre cable underground to the house.

     

     

     

     

  • eurortraveller
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    edited January 2021 #42

    Explain it to me please.

    We have no mobile signal in the house in this rural valley so we use a landline - it comes via a long stretch of copper wire. But the internet comes to us by copper wire too. It is fibre as far as the final green cabinet by the pub in the village a mile away, and then copper wire brings it though the woods, across the river, and up the field to us.  

    Sorry to be a duffer, but which bit of copper wire will they cut off? How will it work out here? Will it be better ? 

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2021 #43

    I was talking to our local BT bod and asked the same and he says it would be done in the exchanges ,he expects the copper wires to be used for tinternet much as now but without the "problem"of phonesundecided

    he also said they have yet to work out how it is going to be rolled out to those who have burgler alarms and several type of medical equipmentsurprised

  • JVB66
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    edited January 2021 #44

    We are in a similar situation as mobile phone signal to EE Three and 02 are non existant inside properties in this area

  • eurortraveller
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    edited January 2021 #45

    So under the proper new system when there is a thunderstorm and the electric power goes off (and out here it does) we will have no internet, no new VOI, no landline, still no moblile signal, and will not be able to plug in our old fashioned emergency phone on a wire into a BT socket to call for help from neighbours who live a mile away or phone 999 in an emergency.  Total isolation. Great news .

  • brue
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    edited January 2021 #46

    No, I mentioned earlier on in this thread that the new system will have to provide one hour of emergency cover (Ofcom.)

  • eurortraveller
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    edited January 2021 #47

    Thanks, some relief, but we get power cuts lasting far longer than one hour.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited January 2021 #48

    We used to do the same but the trouble was that in the early days of ADSL every time you switched off the modem it would take time to recover the speed. I think the advice for fibre is also to leave them on, particularly now as we control our heating remotely. Up until the time Margaret had her heart operation I would go round pulling out plugs at night but during her recovery I just didn't have the time or inclination so now everything stays on although I do switch the sockets off on certain things.

    David

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited January 2021 #49

    You have 4 years to move to the big smoke euroT👍🏻🤷🏻‍♂️

  • SteveL
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    edited January 2021 #50

    When we have had power cuts here, the nearby mobile phone masts have also gone down, so no mobile. Welcome to the 21st century, after an hour of power cut you will no longer be able to contact the emergency services if required.🤔 And that is considered progress.👎

  • richardandros
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    edited January 2021 #51

    Everything is being replaced with fibre optic cable.  At the moment - even if you have fibre broadband, the chances are that it's fibre up to that junction box and then ordinary copper to your house - so the speeds aren't that high - especially with the recent upsurge in usage which is taking up all the bandwidth through the last bit of copper cable.

    What is happening here is that, that last section of copper cable is being replaced with fibre optic and terminates outside our house, waiting for the engineers to connect every individual house.  Hence all the digging up of roads and the mayhem we have been experiencing for about the last six months.

  • peedee
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    edited January 2021 #52

    When I worked in telecoms it was normal to provide a back up power source to cover power failures. I cannot imagine that is still not true at least for significant hubs.

    peedee

  • peedee
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    edited January 2021 #53

    Everything is being replaced with fibre optic cable. At the moment - even if you have fibre broadband, the chances are that it's fibre up to that junction box and then ordinary copper to your house - so the speeds aren't that high

    I have such a system, its fibre in the road outside the house and the feed into the house is coaxial for the broadband, 200Mbs download and 20Mbs upload. A cooper cable is piggy backed on the coax to provide the analogue phone connection which is only there for incoming calls and emergencies because it is cheaper to use the mobile for all outgoing calls.

    peedee

  • LLM
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    edited January 2021 #54

    Your post has set me thinking. 

    I pay X amount monthly to my BB provider for unlimited 24/7 calls from our landline, with some numbers excluded. 

    We also have a couple of mobiles with unlimited calls and again some restrictions, but I have been reluctant to use them too much as I just can't figure out or remember which numbers are likely to result in charges. 

    For example with are with Three and if I call a number on another network or a landline number will I be charged?   What is the norm?

    It would save a significant amount if I could ditch the monthly landline calls payment.

  • SteveL
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    edited January 2021 #55

    With both our mobiles O2 and EE through BT, the inclusive unlimited calls cover 01, 02, 03 and any mobile network as well as 0800. You could try Googling to see what 3 includes, or just make some short calls and check to see if there is any charge. The unlimited texts have caught us out. Emoticons sometimes seem to be counted as pictures, so get charged for. Not really a problem we normally use WhatsApp for that type of communication anyway. 

  • cyberyacht
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    edited January 2021 #56

    A safety issue, just as we unplug shredders, bedside alarms etc. when away. Never even thought about the cost aspect. We just powered everything down when we went away. 

  • peedee
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    edited January 2021 #57

    With unlimited calls LLM you would be daft not to use your mobiles for all your outgoing calls. I have the same set up but don't worry too much about it if I make a chargable call on the mobile. I think the service providers all have different policies. My mobile is with Giff Gaff.

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  • SteveL
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    edited January 2021 #58

    We used to unplug it when we first had one and it caused all sorts of problems, as it didn’t receive automatic updates. Now it’s left on 24/7 365 days of the year. If it wasn’t we wouldn’t be able to access security cameras.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited January 2021 #59

    Thanks, yes do too for certain things when away from more than a weekend, but not overnight.

    Also we trust the fridge

  • KjellNN
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    edited January 2021 #60

    We have had mobiles with 3 for many years, always PAYG as we are very light users.   In the last 5 + years we have moved from BT as our landline provider and been through 2 different BB providers who had calling plans, but these would have been very expensive for what we used as we were away about half the year.  Instead we used mobiles for calls.

    Now we are home more we found it restrictive to worry about calling costs, so have taken a £5 per month SIM with 3 which has unlimited calls and texts in UK, not sure what happens abroad, and a small data allowance.

    Calls can be to other than premium rate numbers, no problem calling landlines or people on other networks.

  • richardandros
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    edited January 2021 #61

    It would save a significant amount if I could ditch the monthly landline calls payment.

    I'm not sure the savings would be that significant, LLM but it depends on your circumstances .  By way of an example - we are with EE for everything.  I currently pay £29pm for fibre (not superfast fibre) broadband plus landline rental - with an additional £5pm for unlimited calls on the landline.

    Switching to superfast broadband would reduce the BB bill to £27pm and, of course I wouldn't be paying for the unlimited calls because the landline would go - so an overall saving of £7pm.

    Is it worth it - I'm not sure because I just feel uneasy about losing the landline.