Covid Vaccine - Temporarily locked
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You make some good points there, brue, although I'd say it's not so much criticism of the government per se, but, specifically, their handling of the situation. And you're right that we don't know what any opposition would do differently, we can only go by what they say they would do.
But here's the thing, surely, we live in a democracy - Boris, Matt, Gavin and the others have chosen to put themselves into a position of responsibility and it's surely legitimate that we hold them to account, question whether things are being done as effectively as they should be and, yes, criticise them at times. And we should be able to do that without the rather tired mantra of "what would you do", "what's you solution" etc, since none of us are in a position to directly answer those questions.
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Both our high street pharmacy and GP practice manage to do all of the flu vaccinations each year for our large village. There isn’t that much car parking, most folk walk if they can. The big advantage with local centres is that folk don’t have to use public transport to access it. The large centres are fine for those with car transport, not so good for many of the age group that are currently being jabbed.
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yes quite agree.
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Yes quite right too. But actually the closing depth is 2.54 cm.
I wore only one wellington to school once as a foot of snow was forecast.
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We also had a card saying to come and pay £2 to collect a letter with insufficient postage......they can return that to the sender
Might be your lottery winning's cheque
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Glad to see you are being less negative. Also I can confirm that many if not most of those things you mention are in place and working well in the background. You may not have heard of the Gold Command in your area but it is there as it is in every other area of the UK.
Now it's my turn to be critical and also agree with you to some extent. It's the politicians who are causing the most of the problems and one of those is their apparent failure to work well together and steer a consistent course. They are allowing themselves to be swayed by too many various pressure groups. Tough decision will always upset and hurt some people but that has be accepted.
Finally do you have any evidence that the virus cannot swim?
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Has anyone else heard what I was told by my niece yesterday. A 'reliable' friend has told her that she had heard that one must refrain from drinking alcohol between the two doses of the vaccine. I think this is fake news worthy of Donald !
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There’s a fair bit on the internet about it. Mostly from the red top press....
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Very unlikely as we do not do the lottery.
It will be a Christmas card, or some junk mail no doubt, we are not expecting anything important.
They may have a problem returning a card to sender though as most people do not put their address on.
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Brue wrote: "I think there's a shortage of crystal balls."
There is a shortage in any other material as well.
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Just read The Equality and Human Rights Commission head has been sent packing after breaking Covid rules by coming to her second home here in North Wales from Hertfordshire. Is there any hope for the general population. Fortunately the locals informed the police. Will there be any further action by Boris - no chance another Cummings.
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Yes I understand Gold Command😁My OH was part of it in another life. Which is why I know what was squandered in terms of the pandemic training scenario. Not I will add under Boris’s watch in fairness.
My frustration with them comes mainly from the fact that they have chosen to try and do things by themselves, certainly in the early days. There is more attention to other options now, and a recognition that it cannot all be done from Westminster. But there have been wasted opportunities and wasted time down the last few months, and some loss of trust situations that could have been better handled.
The virus has provided no evidence of a swimming certificate as far as I can see. But it’s really good at leap frog and hide and seek sadly🙂
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For those asking about the involvement of local pharmacies in the vaccination programme - (from the BBC website)
The answer is that some community pharmacies will be able to administer jabs – but certainly not all.
Some pharmacies just won’t have the space or the staff to be able to carry out the number of vaccinations required.
NHS England requires pharmacies to be able to store 1,000 vaccine doses at a time in their fridges and be able to administer at least 1,000 per week.
They also need to deliver those vaccinations seven days a week from 8am til 8pm, and there are requirements around personal protective equipment (PPE) and training staff too.
As a result, around 200 pharmacy-led sites are currently being assessed to see whether they are suitable to start delivering the Oxford vaccine, alongside more than 700 GP and community sites already up and running.
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JVB. Your comments are anecdotal. The reality is that most schools are open, they are taking care of vulnerable children and those who have "essential" worker parents. Teachers and assistants are working rotas and also doing work for those at home.
One of our family is going in on a rota to look after a severely disabled child who is in mainstream education.
As an example. Our village school has quite a large group of children attending.
This going on throughout the UK.
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"The virus has provided no evidence of a swimming certificate as far as I can see. But it’s really good at leap frog and hide and seek sadly"
Your negative attitude is symbolic of what is wrong and is driving our society in the wrong direction, you should read an article in the press today from the editor of Bild and judge your comments against what is taking place right now in the UK in the fight against Covid and what is happening in the EU, and if you watched the press conference this evening conducted by the PM, just to see a senior armed forces officer accompanying him surely has to be a great positive against this virus. Lets have some positivity instead of all this negativity, and politicing.
whether we like it not, we are all in this together so we sink or swim together.
P.S if you want to refer back to past exercises etc, research Bill Gates, many years ago he hosted a global forum on pandemics etc and suggested way back when that we invest now in setting up a global forum in a fight against pandemics that in his view were only just over the horizon, and here we are, BG committed to investing billions into this research so did the UK, the majority of countries did not and it never got off the ground
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Two more life-saving drugs have been found that can cut deaths by a quarter in patients who are sickest with Covid.
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In fairness, I think today's press conference was one of the more positive ones (the bar is pretty low really!
). But now Boris has pinned his colours to the mast - if he succeeds in his aim of 13 million vaccinations by the middle of February he will certainly go up in my estimation - if he fails he must just go!0 -
I guess broadly speaking, I’d agree. There’s no doubt that gov haven’t handled it well, at times, once again I’ll mention the Cheltenham Festival as a prime example. I think the truth is that ‘government’ is something of a lumbering behemoth, always has been, certainly not fleet of foot, unlike the virus. That said, whilst it’s easy to find holes in the gov response, it’s certainly a task I wouldn’t relish, the weight of a nation on your shoulders? I don’t think any nation has covered themselves in glory. I’m almost tempted to say that our gov has probably done as well as any, and better than many, but that’s a fact beyond my grasp. I guess we’ll know that in the fullness of time. When it comes down success or otherwise, it was always down to the man in the street, notwithstanding gov shortcomings.
I guess I prefer to look for the positives, especially now. In under a year, a vaccine has been developed from scratch and is now being distributed/administered, nearly 1.5m doses in arms. That’s outstanding, I think. There will no doubt be some negative stories in the weeks ahead, but I always maintain, it’s always bad stories that make for the best headlines/talking points. The link moulsey provided is a good example of this.
As frustrating as it is, relax, we’ll get there 🙂
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Don’t confuse being politically aware with negativity rufs. I haven’t been anything but positive throughout the last ten months from a personal point of view. Tried to do everything I should, happy that all but one of my family and friends have escaped unscathed, actually enjoyed the lockdown as it’s allowed us to focus on other things than holidays.
But I reserve the right to call out bad decisions, financial mismanagement, bad behaviour by politicians of all persuasions, and members of society who are still part of the problem rather than part of the solution. It’s called democracy.
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I much prefer having a PM with drive and determination prepared to set ambitious targets rather than the type that cautiously constantly plays it safe. There are many variables so if it does not all go to plan I won't hold it against him. Whatever happens some negative people will find something to complain about.
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To be fair the quote you have chosen was a tongue in cheek response to a similar comment I made, nothing more and not indicative of anything serious.
I read the article you have mentioned and I agree it is very telling. In some respects we are doing very well by comparison with some parts of Europe. In other respects we are doing very very badly.
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I think many of us would prefer to have a boring but driven PM in the current circumstances
However there is some evidence that he is at long last listening to someone with common sense. I think that person is Allegra Stratton the new Downing Street Press Secretary. It was interesting reading my Guardian this morning how often she was mentioned as a source of information so she is clearly doing her job and has no doubt pointed out to the PM the need for better presentation. It was interesting today that he was more cautious in presenting what was happening at the Press Conference. He must be a serious nightmare to manage!!! David
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