Acorns

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited October 2020 #32

    No matter how big an organisation is they can still make mistakes Brue, as the RHS has proved👍🏻

  • brue
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    edited October 2020 #33

    Well if I grow an oak from an acorn now I wont be around to see it with acorns in the future so I'll never know....wink (but someone might enjoy it.) The oak by our home was probably planted by a farm worker two years after WW1 ended in 1920. I've read that oaks start to spread outwards rater than upwards at a certain point and can support 280 insect species. smile 

  • eurortraveller
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    edited November 2020 #34

    We have a 400 year old oak tree in what we pretend is a garden, so there's no shortage of acorns at all. But are the resident grey squirrels satisfied with that? No, they go all of 400 metres up the hill to the nearest sweet chestnut tree by the farm entrance , and carefully carry those nuts back one by one - and take them up our oak tree as a treat. And the evidence is now appearing on the ground - the spiky outer husks that they throw down for me. 

  • Tammygirl
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    edited November 2020 #35

    Not wishing to appear to be thick embarassed I take it if I was to try and grow an oak tree from an acorn I have to break open the hard shell first embarassed 

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited November 2020 #36

    No TG, lay it on its side in moist compost, leave Mother Nature to do its thing. I’d plant at least 3 to allow for duds. It’s great fun👍🏻😊

    PS-I forgot, just below the surface.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited November 2020 #37

    Many thanks Rocky, I've got a few that I can play with. Everyday is a school day laughing

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited November 2020 #38

    That is what makes life so wonderful👍🏻. If you intend to keep any I’d keep it/them in ever increasing sizes of tubs/pots that way you get big Bonsai as they’re like Goldfish they’ll grow to what their home allows them. You & I will enjoy them but if we plant them in open garden ground they may in time create problems for future generations to come. In the right settings they will not need cutting down. It’s heartbreaking seeing a healthy Tree being cut down☹️. Enjoy.

  • Impy
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    edited November 2020 #39

    Does anyone have experience on how to Bonsai oak trees?  We have a oak tree in a pot about 8-10 inches tall now, grown not by us but by curtesy of the squirrel or Jay that every year like to try and start a plantation of oak, chestnut & hazel nut trees in our garden.  I have in my mind that you have to trim the roots as well as the branches.  Thanks to reading Rocky's comment it reminded me about the little tree. 

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited November 2020 #40

    Impy I did try it once but I goofed after 4yrs by ignoring it for over 4 weeks as I was working away. Best advice is get a beginners guide book, particularly a book as the advice online can change per grower. A book will be there for you for every facet of your growing Tree & skill set. It may on the surface seem easy but it takes commitment & I wasn’t up to the task🤷🏻‍♂️☹️. Good luck👍🏻

  • Impy
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    edited November 2020 #41

    Thanks for your reply Rocky, on reading your comment on commitment I am not sure that if I was to manage to bonsai it I would be able to give it the commitment required, maybe I will just keep it "small" by restricting the size of pot it is growing in or maybe plant it somewhere suitable.

  • Fisherman
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    edited November 2020 #42

    Before we get carried away with where to plant oak saplings, beware they will become big trees. Hardly likely to be apt for a suburban back garden. May I suggest , as I started the thread, you speak to say Scout Group, primary school etc when you have the saplings to discuss a site.  I saw somewhere on a post here people bemoaning the lack of landscaping I think at the Southport site extension. Perhaps that would be suitable. Most acorns are now down so little time  to gather.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited November 2020 #43

    I have to confess to seed bombing every now and then😁 From acorns, hazelnuts, beechnuts, poppies, snap dragons etc....... My pockets are always full of something, makes a heck of a mess in washer😂

  • Impy
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    edited November 2020 #44

    When I said "plant somewhere suitable" I was intending to plant it in our local woods, I totally agree that they are not suitable for the average garden.

  • brue
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    edited November 2020 #45

    We've grown a few trees in pots, mainly seed grown from favourite trees. If you keep them in a pot they stay small, you can bonsai them by trimming the roots and wiring the branches using bonsai dishes to curb the growth. We just grow mini versions! smile

  • mickysf
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    edited November 2020 #46

    There was a magnificent holm oak which remained green throughout the winter close to our home. Probably an escapee from the nearby stately home or planted by someone finding an acorn. The wealth and landed gentry often brought plants from all around the world and several have naturalised themselves to the detriment of native species in some instances. As climates change some species of native trees will do less well while introduced, naturally or otherwise ones, may just thrive. 

  • Impy
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    edited November 2020 #47

    Thanks for the information Brue, I think it will probably be kept in a pot in the garden smile

  • EasyT
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    edited November 2020 #48

    I planted two trees about 30 years ago. One in a pot is around 5  or 6 feet high. the other on the top of a railway embankment is over 50 feet

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited November 2020 #49

    You plant things with care in the wild. Rogue rhododendrons were a huge problem in Snowdonia years ago.😱

  • Fisherman
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    edited November 2020 #50

    Likewise the Ash Die back came in when the do gooders wanted to spend their grant monies and brought the plants abroad.

  • JVB66
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    edited November 2020 #51

    We have had a mass cull of rhododendrons in our ancient woodland

  • JVB66
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    edited November 2020 #52

    Not so much do gooders as buying abroad cheaper and good profits, without checks before being imported or border checks over here,

    As has been happening for many years on numerous invasive and infected species,that have also arrived in other products 

  • Fisherman
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    edited November 2020 #53

    It was some woodland group, spent their grant monies in a hurry to meet some so called deadline. The trees proved diseased. Result utter disaster.

  • JVB66
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    edited November 2020 #54

    The ash die back virus in thie UK was first found in trees in a nursery in Kent?

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited November 2020 #55

    I agree fully Fish👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻. Why the trees that are natural to this country can’t be sourced in this country is beyond me, it ain’t hard to grow any U.K. trees nor is it expensive. It’s just greed👍🏻. The importer should pick up the tab for having lax systems.

  • JVB66
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    edited November 2020 #56

    If only that would work? ,it has not happened with so many other "imports" 

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited November 2020 #57

    I saw on Countryfile yesterday that Dame Judy Dench had raised an oak from an acorn this year. I think she said that she got it to germinate by putting it in a vase of water for a week or so.

  • JVB66
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    edited November 2020 #58

    I have today got a bag of acorns and numerous are sprouting going to plant them tomorrow ,and see how they get on  

  • brue
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    edited December 2020 #59

    I really enjoyed the Countryfile programme on the 29th, concentrating on one subject and encouraging tree planting, it was good. 🌳

  • Fisherman
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    edited July 2021 #60

    The regeneration of Oaks from last years acorns is pretty phenomenal. Never seen so many saplings in our local woods. Looks good for nature looking after itself.

  • Fisherman
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    edited October 2021 #61

    Oh dear, there are fewer acorns this year. The eco warriors, this morning on the radio, are predicting the demise of the Oak. Why instead of protesting or waiting for a Lottery grant did they not harvest last years bonanza. Those would now be sapling's. Mine are ready to move to the odd corner and allowed to flourish. Oh forgot the idea was not backed by a so called "celebrity"