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  • LLM
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    edited October 2020 #812

    Force Majeure? Really?

    Decisive action was an unforeseeable circumstance? 

    I'm confused 🤔.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited October 2020 #813

    Peoples actions are very variable in many places. I do my main shopping in the week at our local Asda and Lidl and I have not noticed anybody not complying and customers courteously standing back if they want produce adjacent on the shelves.

    Its like that where we live, sadly not everywhere which is why we are seeing these spikes.

     

  • Tammygirl
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    edited October 2020 #814

    What email we've not had one.

  • Wherenext
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    edited October 2020 #815

    I've emailed one to you.smile

  • Tammygirl
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    edited October 2020 #816

    Thank you smile

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited October 2020 #817

    It's not just some of the young that are ignoring the directives from government. There are 3 caravans on the CL we're staying on at present, each with 2 obviously retired couples in, who have spent each evening all together in one or the other's van. Talk about close indoor contact, you certainly can't socially distance sitting side by side by side on a bench seat!!

  • davetommo
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    edited October 2020 #818

    Perhaps they think that they don’t have long to live, so why be miserable for god knows how many more years. Let’s enjoy what we have left because obey the rules or not the virus and all it’s restrictions may outlive us.  

     

  • dave the rave
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    edited October 2020 #819

    Perhaps I will wait until your curtains are closed before I join my brother in his motorhome in which the  four of us can comfortably sit whilst maintaining a 3ft distance between the 2 families! And same again the next night in my touring caravan!tongue-out

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited October 2020 #820

    I have no problems with 2 families meeting up but it's the ignoring of the directions that has got us into the situation we're in now, nn.

    It's not them that I am concerned about but the others they may well meet and pass the virus onto those people, dt.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited October 2020 #821

    Looks like we will be next into the grinder☹️ Heaven help those on low incomes or unable to go to work. Our next door neighbour has had her hopes and dreams dashed. House up for sale, she was in tears bless her. So very very sad.😢

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2020 #822

    A lot of people have suffered and lost jobs and I agree it is very sad indeed. I am well aware that it is far easier for me at this time than for many. 

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2020 #824

    Mixed up messages from various authorities do not help. Just looked at the Welsh Gov website for the 'Firebreak lockdown' and it says all retail businesses can open Welsh news same date says only essential shops.

  • Bakers2
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    edited October 2020 #825

    Goldie I don't think you're alone in that. I can remember work days like that too I have to remind myself - at least in retirement I can choose what to do to a certain extent. Our pension income is guaranteed - so far surprised and our house is paid for. I really feel for those on zero hours or minimum wage and those with families.

    We are paying for our lovely sunny day yesterday, its persistently raining here. We had arranged a catch up with friends before tier 2 was imposed and held our nerve. Sat in the garden for a couple of hours - coats not needed, and how much better we felt for it.

    Do your bit folks and stay safe

     

  • Compo
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    edited October 2020 #826

    Fisherman should be able to advise you on that one. Whichever is correct I doubt if they are open to someone from England in a Highly infected area like me.

  • Compo
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    edited October 2020 #827

    I wouldn't be too sure about anything in these uncertain times. The virus can be very cruel and the country owes a massive amount of money to somebody and rising. Who knows where they will get it from to repay the debt. I have a decent pension to live on, but I don't feel at all secure.

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2020 #828

    Ah, I take that back. Just a poor website layout. I clicked on a particular 'Firebreak Link' and it took me to the old page with another 'Firebreak Link' to click on. 

     

    Maybe CMC IT bods have been moonlighting

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2020 #829

    Being retired , a long time,(no work environment) and many friends ,including work colleagues,  who  are no longer still with us,  makes for quite a lonely life for many,in our position  ,and with the pandemic also keeping vulnerable folk away from any where  they could be more susceptible to the virus ,even if the weather is good it has been very noticeable how few people are out and about now

    We really feel for people in that situation ,with Rosa  I/We need to be out at least 3/4walks a day so meeting others for a quick chat inormally  is good 

  • DSB
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    edited October 2020 #830

    I'm retired too..... well probably as retired as a musician ever is!!  It is really difficult not being able to meet with those who are normally such a big part of our lives.  However, one of the biggest changes we have made, it we've experienced the delights of Zoom.  

    My sister lives the other side of the Midlands and, to be honest, we only meet up occasionally- usually 'high days and holidays'.  Since the original 'lockdown', which meant no Friday abbey choir practice, we started by having a Friday night weekly family Zoom quiz.  Now, that has degenerated into a Friday night chat.  I've actually spoken to my sister and that side of the family more since lockdown than I would have done normally.

    Now that we are doing Abbey choir practices again (albeit a shortened version), I just manage to get back for the Friday night 9pm chat...

    I guess that is the one 'upside' of all.  I am, however sick ifcreading rules and risk assessments!  Off to view a hall this morning to see if we can follow all safety guidelines for one of my other choirs to tentatively start back....

    I can commend Zoom, though..... if that's any help.

    David

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited October 2020 #831

    ‘Who knows where they will get it from to repay the debt’, that’ll be the taxpayer then🤷🏻‍♂️. I believe the most recent count is north of £36bn owed & rising. Death & taxes-the only certainties in life(with thanks to Benjamin Franklin)

  • Compo
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    edited October 2020 #832

    £36 bn ? 

    UK government borrowing hit a record high for a sixth month in a row in September, taking public debt to its highest level in 60 years.

    Official figures show Britain’s debt pile now stands at almost £2.1tn.

     

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited October 2020 #833

    Yes, same here. Another neighbour’s son was made redundant a few months ago. He’s a very clever lad, I think he was working for one of the big car manufacturers (possibly BMW), but was furloughed. During the first lockdown, he and another neighbour’s son got together and set up making PPE masks for NHS staff. All done through donations, they made thousands. But he was finished with his company, and he’s now working from his Mum’s big house. It has a mews flat over big garage and he has turned it into a workshop, making lovely wood turned articles and other ethical products. Fingers crossed he makes a go of things. 

    I can see Winter being a lot more difficult for many than the Spring was. 

    Edit. That’s it then, Tier 3 from Midnight Friday☹️ Got to start finding out what we can and can’t do. New boiler scheduled to be fitted next week, so that’s going to be interesting. MH MOT, Jeep MOT. All booked.

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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited October 2020 #835

    I usually do a calendar as well AD, from holiday photos, I had forgotten about that🙂 I should have enough hopefully to put something together. As you say, we are lucky, no loved ones or close friends have been ill. 

     

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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited October 2020 #838

    Very hard, and difficult. 

    We tend to be loners in the main, other than fact I help care for Mum. But I have missed the interaction with other members of family this year, no matter how occasional. We had started having a week away with eldest SIL and her husband, but that hasn’t happened this year. Not seen London cousin in flesh since last Christmas, she usually makes at least a couple of trips up for a get together. Have missed the occasional on site get together with chums on here as well.....

    Keeping busy is our key. Be it some exercise, some DIY, some hobbies. Looks like the staircase will get some TLC next....😁 

    Edit WTG, I know exactly where you are coming from. Nearly lost my OH twice a few years ago, so every day is and will remain a huge bonus. No matter what we can or cannot do. 

     

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2020 #839

    I can see Winter being a lot more difficult for many than the Spring was. 

    I think that it might be so TDA for me. Thus far I have been pleased at my efforts outside at home and to that extent have enjoyed time in the garden, garage etc. I do tend to get a little fed up in winter however and our 15 night Southport break helps relieve the spirits. Whether that will transpire this December I know not.

  • brue
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    edited October 2020 #840

     TDA, I think your mayor spoke well about the situation and the need for "grit", I hope you can all weather the storm.

    Thinking about the end of last year when this "new" virus apeared in Wuhan we all sailed along with the news, not knowing the true consequences. It has been a long haul! 

    This week I've booked a garden centre cafe table...who'd have thought a year ago something so mundane would have to be booked and confirmed by e mail. Who'd have thought I'd feel slightly nervous about sitting in a garden centre...

    Which also makes me think my parents generation coped with far worse and with far less!!

  • Metheven
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    edited October 2020 #841

    Well I'm optimistic, my Passport expires in March of next year so applied online today for a renewal, unfortunately it comes with a change of colour frown but planning early for next year smile It's the small things I can do in this crap year that gives me the optimism for a better one next.

    So much uncertainty with this and Brexit, but if the Borders are open next year and we are still around, then we will be crossing them.

    Oh! and I have a box of 10 Cornish Pasties arriving today, that will keep me going also. tongue-out Have heard they keep 99.9% of viruses at bay. laughing