Club sites in lockdown areas.

lesandang
lesandang Forum Participant Posts: 243
edited September 2020 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

We are currently on a club site which is in an area adjacent to one in local lockdown. I am not aware if the situation has occurred yet, where a site is situated in an area which is locked down but it would be useful to know how the club will approach this situation. I am sure that this must have been discussed, so it would be useful for members to know. Will members also be locked in the area or will the site close, possibly at short notice as earlier in the year? 

«1

Comments

  • AnnB
    AnnB Forum Participant Posts: 226
    edited September 2020 #2

    Depends what you mean by lockdown. Most of the local restrictions have related to mixing of households, maximum numbers, partial closure of pubs, bars, restaurants etc (Bolton). None have introduced curfews as far as I know.

    Restrictions were harshest in Spring but even then food shops etc were open. I can’t see this being repeated in anything other than a limited way. People will still be going shopping, going to work etc so I can’t see why sites would have to close or restrict movement.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
    Rocky 2 buckets Forum Participant Posts: 7,101
    1000 Comments
    edited September 2020 #3

    I’m sure I saw a piece on the national news stating that the North East(Newcastle area) are entering a local lockdown tomorrow, pubs curfewed & no gatherings. Hence it has been called ‘local lockdown’ it may impact the public(you & I)🤔

  • lesandang
    lesandang Forum Participant Posts: 243
    edited September 2020 #4

    My understanding is that in Caerphilly and the new lockdown nearby in Rhonda for instance people are required to stay within the borough. So does this apply  if you are on holiday in the area? 

  • brue
    brue Forum Participant Posts: 21,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1000 Comments
    edited September 2020 #5

    Good question Lesandang. Local travel limitations including curfews in some areas might affect some holiday plans and maybe sites too. We're waiting to hear about the NE and I've noticed previously busy sites have more vacancies.

  • Unknown
    Unknown Forum Participant
    edited September 2020 #6
    The user and all related content has been deleted
  • KjellNN
    KjellNN Club Member Posts: 8,670 ✭✭✭
    2,500 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper
    edited September 2020 #7

    So what can you do if you are already on a site in the "closed" areas in Wales and you need to go home or on to your next site?

  • Unknown
    Unknown Forum Participant
    edited September 2020 #8
    The user and all related content has been deleted
  • brue
    brue Forum Participant Posts: 21,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1000 Comments
    edited September 2020 #9

    Public Announcement at 11 30am today. I think there has been concern about the spread to older people in the NE.

  • KjellNN
    KjellNN Club Member Posts: 8,670 ✭✭✭
    2,500 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper
    edited September 2020 #10

    I don't think we would want to "sit it out" if the situation in the area is that poor that restrictions were necessary.  And moving on elsewhere at short notice could be tricky when sites are busy.  

    With an apparently deteriorating situation in many areas, including our  own, we made the decision last week not to go away at present. Should have been setting out this Sunday.

    We were looking forward to a change of scenery, and our friends in Wales were looking forward to seeing us for a few days,  but we are all over 70, with pre-existing conditions, so decided to err on the side of caution.

  • lesandang
    lesandang Forum Participant Posts: 243
    edited September 2020 #11

    Exactly the point of my question. 

  • JVB66
    JVB66 Forum Participant Posts: 22,892
    1000 Comments
    edited September 2020 #12

    A lockdown is always announced at least about 24hrs notice before hand ,is that not enough time to up sticks and get out of the area,?undecided

  • Unknown
    Unknown Forum Participant
    edited September 2020 #13
    The user and all related content has been deleted
  • harryb
    harryb Forum Participant Posts: 1,536
    1000 Comments
    edited September 2020 #14

    Link to the local newspaper in Newcastle. This is from a relative up there. Apparently numbers have been rising steadily but the suddeness has taken them by surprise.

    https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/local-lockdown-north-east-rules-18945698

  • LLM
    LLM Forum Participant Posts: 1,555 ✭✭
    500 Likes 1000 Comments
    edited September 2020 #15

    Assuming that the whole idea of restrictions and lockdowns is to prevent or slow the spread of the virus, I suppose the ultra careful and responsible thing to do would be to leave a.s.a.p. travel directly home avoiding all interactions with other people and self isolate for 14 days on arrival.  

    Alternatively, take the family for a day out to Barnard Castle. sealed

  • Rocky 2 buckets
    Rocky 2 buckets Forum Participant Posts: 7,101
    1000 Comments
    edited September 2020 #16

    To check brakes(if you get stopped)👍🏻

  • ForestR
    ForestR Forum Participant Posts: 326
    100 Comments
    edited September 2020 #17

    There would appear to be no travel restrictions  to or from sites in England in local lockdown areas example being Burrs Country Park in Bury which has been in local lockdown  since end of July. This is confirmed in Government guidance.

    Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland with devolved administrations have always had their own rules with more restricted travel and even after reading today's latest reports I could not find a specific requirement on caravan sites.

  • LLM
    LLM Forum Participant Posts: 1,555 ✭✭
    500 Likes 1000 Comments
    edited September 2020 #18

    Eye sight as well wink.

  • Rocky 2 buckets
    Rocky 2 buckets Forum Participant Posts: 7,101
    1000 Comments
    edited September 2020 #19

    I’m not into rehashing(it’s been done to death🤷🏻‍♂️), allow me some latitude here👍🏻

  • cyberyacht
    cyberyacht Forum Participant Posts: 10,218
    1000 Comments
    edited September 2020 #20

    Does one want to go anywhere where the situation is looking that precarious in the first place?

  • brue
    brue Forum Participant Posts: 21,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1000 Comments
    edited September 2020 #21

    I don't think I've been anywhere this year since the start of Covid where I have felt totally ok and not aware of the risks involved. My feelings are it could be anywhere. If we manage to get away on our next trip which touches on areas of increased Covid infections we'll be even more alert and probably curtail more activities amongst the general public...it's going to be different yet again. frown

  • AnnB
    AnnB Forum Participant Posts: 226
    edited September 2020 #22

    My understanding of a ‘curfew’ is where no one would be allowed out of their homes after a certain time. The 10:00pm limit is on pubs, bars etc meaning they have to close at that time.

    Maybe I’m naive but I unless things turn into a total disaster then I can’t see any government implementing a full curfew and stopping travel. They can ‘advise’ but when they did so in a spring and Police were stopping cars etc for travelling to the Lakes eg they were soon told that they had no powers to do so.

  • brue
    brue Forum Participant Posts: 21,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1000 Comments
    edited September 2020 #23

    There are legal enforcements regarding travel in places like Caerphilly eg you're breaking the law if you go on holiday.

    Legal enforcements can be used when necessary.

     

  • Takethedogalong
    Takethedogalong Forum Participant Posts: 17,046 ✭✭✭
    10,000 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited September 2020 #24

    The term lockdown is very misleading. France, Spain and Italy had full lockdowns, reinforced by a strong and active police presence. England, etc.......was given guidance, oft at times rather vague, and with little in most areas to give it any teeth. Relied mainly on a social conscience, the fact that other than essential places of work and health providers everywhere else was closed, so there was nowhere to go if the desire was there. I think we saw a police patrol car twice in our town in four months. 

    Now there are lots of places for people to meet up, interact, drink, dine, socialise etc..... All that is changing in areas of growing risk is proposals to close socialising areas earlier (so you get less time to throw down as much alcohol as you fancy, you can’t dawdle as long over a meal) and then there is the vague hope that families and friends won’t be tempted to meet up, beyond just caring for dependents. I haven’t seen anything for England that states residents can or cannot travel from an area of high cases into an area with few cases. I think one of the Welsh areas has such restrictions, but does it include for work, and who is policing it? 🤷‍♀️

  • brue
    brue Forum Participant Posts: 21,176 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1000 Comments
    edited September 2020 #25

    If you look at the Welsh situation the local rules are quite clear and stringent. Let's hope we get things under control elsewhere to avoid similar actions. I think we'll be hearing more about further restrictions soon. frown

  • Unknown
    Unknown Forum Participant
    edited September 2020 #26
    The user and all related content has been Deleted User
  • Takethedogalong
    Takethedogalong Forum Participant Posts: 17,046 ✭✭✭
    10,000 Likes 1000 Comments Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited September 2020 #27

    I think the advice for Wales and Scotland has been a lot clearer throughout Brue. 

     

  • JVB66
    JVB66 Forum Participant Posts: 22,892
    1000 Comments
    edited September 2020 #28

    I would think it would be difficult to give any advise to anyone except to follow local instructions , as it seems it is different depending where the lockdown is? 

    Self preservation would i think would be a priority  and get out before it is implemented? 

    refunds ould be another day to sort outsurprised

  • DEBSC
    DEBSC Forum Participant Posts: 1,362
    1000 Comments Name Dropper
    edited September 2020 #29

    I'm sorry but isn't it common sense, if the area you are stopping in is going into lockdown then I would leave and go home. Wouldn't want to go out and about, upsetting the locals. Wouldn't want to be forced, by a travel lockdown, to stay in that area. Sometimes we have to think for ourselves what is best.

  • eurortraveller
    eurortraveller Club Member Posts: 6,829 ✭✭✭
    2,500 Likes 1000 Comments
    edited September 2020 #30

    If the campsite is in a lockdown area then the site owner should close it until the situation improves. 

  • EmilysDad
    EmilysDad Forum Participant Posts: 8,973
    1000 Comments
    edited September 2020 #31

    I still don't have a clue what our local 'lock down restrictions' are. Watched the local news last night & the health correspondent was detailing the 4 different versions in force in Lancashire alone. I've lost track.