Speed limits
I have searched, without success, for more detail on UK speed limits. We have a motorhome over 3050kg so from the governmnet website I can see that we can do 30 in a 30, 50mph on single carriageways with national speed limit, 60mph on a dual carraigeway and 70 on motorways. My issue is on single carraige ways with 40 and 50mph limits and dual carriage ways with reduced speeds, there is one near us where the limit is reduced to 50mph. Also on the A17 there are several areas where the national speed limit on this single carriage way is replaced with a 60mph sign, What speed should we do here? Please could someone produce a comprehensive list for all classes of vehicles and road spped limits.
I have tried the government but had no reply. They are a lot quicker when they want tax out of us.
Colin
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Obey signs that have a red circle on a white background with figures in black!Just the same as you would have learned if you had taken a driving test.These are signs that MUST be obeyed !
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This is the Government information of speed limits based on unladen weight https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits Clearly where a sign indicates a lower speed limit that is the one to follow.
David
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I have never seen a single carriageway national speed limit sign replaced with a 60 and I cannot think of a reason to do it. In regard to the limit you have stated that you know it is 50mph for your vehicle so why would you think it was any different.
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Hi Ymmot
I also have a MH over 3500Kg and yes there are different speed limits for us. The way I got over this was to buy a Garmin Camper SatNav which when you enter the weight of your MH automatically displays the speed limit applicable to you for the road you are on, it also gives an audible alarm when you exceed the limit, which you may find helpful or not. The other benefit with a Camper specif SatNav is when you add the the dimensions of your MH it will set the best route for you avoiding narrow roads, bridges etc. I expect that not all people want to rely on a SatNav but for me it has taken away a major part of the stress of a journey.
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It's 3050kg unladen weight for speed limit laws and rules of the road such as outside lane usage.
3500kg laden weight is for drivers' licence categories.
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I was given an ordinary satnav by my boss as her partner has a M/H which has an intergrated satvav and I am a definite convert, especially when I am going to somewhere a little out of the way, which is not signposted, although it does have a very disconcerting habit of switching off occasionally when I don't want it to The ones specifically for motorhomers/caravanners sound good but like most things made specifically for motorhomes, caravans and boats, they are far more expensive compared with normal ones, which is very annoying.
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Just for Information !!
There has been an adjustment to MAXIMUM speed, from 70 M.P.H. Down to 60 M.P.H. on four sections of Motorway from the end of this month, but announced this weekend !!
M1 Junction 33 --> J34
M5 J1 --> J2
M6 J6 --> J7
M602 J1 --> J3
24 hours per day, for an as yet undetermined period but at least 12 months. Breaches come at £100 & 3 penalty points
Just thought you all ought to Know
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The reason they are on the A17 according to Norfolk cc highways is that after some accidents at some junctions that have a grass strip "refuge" in the middle of the road it "confused?"some drivers? who thought it was a dual carriageway?
They have/are being installed at similar areas throughout the UK
Even if only for a short distance, with an NSL sign at end of such sections
ps It is the result of a coroners inquest
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Hate to think what the content was that was removed considering what’s left. DK’s link to the government website is exactly the one I referenced in my post. It does not say anything about single carriageway speeds other than 30mph and all vehicles are allowed to do 30mph. Do we take it that all single carriageway speeds are the same?
The Highway Code is essential for all drivers and as a member of the Advanced Motorist is something I abide by.
Rule 124 says you must not exceed the limits as dictated in speed limit table. This table has less information than the list on the government website and does not mention the unladen weight conditions.
Rule 125 states the limit is the absolute maximum and does not mean it is safe to do so.
Rule 146 says you should adapt your driving to the appropriate type and condition of the road.
Rule152 is about residential streets and driving slowly.
Rule 257 is about motorway signals and amber flashing lights which are warning of a hazard ahead.
Rule 261 states you must not exceed 70mph or the maximum speed limit permitted for your vehicle as specified in the speed limits table which is pretty vague.
Rule 288 is about roadworks and states, amongst other points, you must not exceed any temporary maximum speed limit.
The Highway Code I am referencing is the 2015 print, If there is a newer version which clarifies this point please let me know.
Vulcan. This was a beautifully designed machine built for a purpose which thankfully it was never called to fore fill. It was graceful in flight and made lots of noise with the distinctive howl on fully throttle. As has been stated the changes on the A17 were put into place because drivers were getting confused that a road with a strip of land separating opposing carriageways is not necessarily a dual carriageway. It is only a dual carriageway if designated as one with signs leading up to it stating that the toad ahead will develop into a dual carriageway.
Am I any the wiser, no, because no one as answered the original question. Like must forums to many people who feel they need to say something when they are just showing the rest what they shouldn’t.
Moderators, if you feel the need to remove this, feel free. I won’t be back to see if it stays or goes as you haven’t bothered answering my question I don’t see why I should bother. Looking on this forum and others this and similar questions have been asked before and either there has been the same drivel spouted or nothing. I will continue to try and get the information I require and when I do I will publish somewhere.
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It's not the moderators' job to answer your question. They are volunteers here to keep the forum tidy with a bit of housekeeping. There's no point in having a go at someone who is probably no more expert than you.
Contact somebody at HQ if you want information.
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You are over thinking it ymmot. Put simply the absolute maximum speed your vehicle is allowed on a single carriageway road is 50mph irrespective of what the sign says, If the limit is lower than 60 you have to adhere to to the stated limit. I hope this answers your question.
Regarding the A17 a dual carriageway is still a dual carriageway even if if does not have a sign and the requirement for a dual carriageway ahead sign is specifically not applied to dual carriageways less than 400m long as many are on the A17.
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As far as I’m aware the deregulated speed is actual. Meaning that the 50mph is 50mph and not (stated speed limit minus 10mph). A useful page on the RAC site can be found Here
Also - for anyone with a converted panel van which is registered on their logbook as a light goods vehicle will be fined if caught going over 50MPH on single lane roads. To avoid this it is possible to get the van re registered to a motorhome by contacting the DVLC.
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Suzy65 is spot on there.
Only to add that if you change from van to MH then your tax may change.
Mine is classed as MH and is N1 tax rate at £275
Van classed as PLG is £140
So make your choice £135 a year extra to go a bit faster on certain roads.
Govt website states , MH classification is soley a means of immediate identification to authorities such as Police etc.
The whole thing with this and weight is totally bizarre.
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