Wifi Price rise

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  • Compo
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    edited July 2020 #122

    Thanks for that. I must admit I was surprised how good the 4G connection was. wink

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited July 2020 #123

    I use 4G now as my first preference as providing I can get a reasonable signal it is faster and more reliable that the Club WiFi. 

    David

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited July 2020 #124

    It is indeed as David has discovered as well. There aren't many places you can't get a signal these days, usually the wildest or most remote areas (and Clumber Park). I've used it successfully in the Western Isles and in Orkney & Shetland where you certainly won't find club wifi! 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2020 #125

    censor - harsh words AD and Nothing of the sort, just trying to keep the thread on topic. Does UK really have to mentioned in a thread about CAMC club site wifi? I hardly think so in my view?

    not invariably true. Again you only example is from over there and has been said before any comparison with over there to over here is largely useless as prices, structures... are not the same and usually cannot be duplicated.

    I'll ask again - do you have any examples in the UK to prove your point would be more relevant and useful? 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2020 #126

    I've been surprised how little data it uses too. I've been using on line OS maps and tracking apps while out and about, also searching for things on the go and very little data usage.

     

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2020 #127

    O2 and EE are useless where we live to get any signal on either its a trip upstairs ,the portable card readers that "contractors?" use do not work heresurprised

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    edited July 2020 #128
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  • JVB66
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    edited July 2020 #129

    You right you dont have to, but then surprised

  • moulesy
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    edited July 2020 #130

    What a pity that you've resorted to sarcasm to support a rather questionable argument, but hardly surprising given your recent record of responding to my posts.

    So let me ask you a direct question - have you personally ever known "free" wifi in pubs, restaurants or campsites (you seem to have missed that I included campsites in my original post by the way) to match in any way that which you experience at home?

    (Note, that I made no reference to sites "over there" cheap or otherwise in my post - a rather "cheap" snipe I thought. frown)

  • JVB66
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    edited July 2020 #131

    WHOOPs wrong poster Msurprised

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  • moulesy
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    edited July 2020 #133

    And my original point, which, in fairness, you answered positively as opposed to Easy T, was that "free" WiFi was fine for browsing and checking emails but that (many) folk would expect it to match their experience at home - maybe I should have said "in the vast majority of cases". But I stand by my original comment that it is unrealistic to expect "free" wifi to match "paid for" wifi.

    Like you, I will also leave it at that. 

  • EasyT
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    edited July 2020 #134

     What a pity that you think that my post is about you. It is not all about you you know M and I made no reference to your post. I think that, in the main, I choose to only address you when 'spoken to or questioned by you. 

    Maybe you quoted me by mistake? 

  • SteveL
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    edited July 2020 #135

    Indeed there are still dead spots, although they do seem to be getting fewer and fewer. We have one on O2 and one EE.

    As others have commented most applications don't seem to use a lot of data. Even sending photos over WhatsApp. As long as you stay clear of actually down loading maps, or streaming TV, which when I used it to watch a Grand Prix was gobbling 1 GB an hour.

  • moulesy
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    edited July 2020 #136

    No mistake, at all. And maybe you could point out exactly why you posted the way you did and how you thought your post made a positive contribution to the thread? frown

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2020 #137

    There was no mistake as I see it but really does it matter who you were replying to ET? Instead of using a reasoned counter argument you instead used sarcasm against a poster. Why?

  • EasyT
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    edited July 2020 #138

    I don't present arguments ........ only my own opinions. Much like yourself

  • Cornersteady
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    edited July 2020 #139

    Ok then why not present them without being sarcastic to other posters? undecided

  • EasyT
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    edited July 2020 #140

    Free wifi can be good, I have certainly had free wifi that as far as is discernible to me is as good as at home. There again I don't get blistering speeds at home and so if a page download appears as as quick and my youtube doesn't buffer and google maps and my weather forecast appears OK it is as good as at home for me. Davids example of a website abroad shows that free wifi can be good. Wifi is wifi and if it can be good in another country then it can be in this,  

    I have rarely used free wifi but have had free wifi on a few sites over the last 6 years and it has been fine and better than some paid for site wifi. One at the affiliated site near Harlech and one at Wagtail Park affiliated site last year come to mind. 

    I also had 'nearly' free wifi at Gaer Hyfryd Caravan Club Site near Corwen. It was £1 for up to 7 nights for at least 2 users (may have been more users I have no idea). That also was fine. 

    I am not likely to use free wifi in many other situations. Used it in a Tesco near Utoxeter to find somewhere to buy a mifi and don't think it was very good necessarily but don't know a it was fine for what I wanted. Used it at a Morissons near Hereford as there was no mobile signal or wifi at Moorhampton, Hereford and we rarely use hotspots unless available at the caravan. OH had just started a forum and we wanted to get in touch and so used Morrisons for lunch and wifi. It ran my You tube watches fine and so good enough for me

  • EasyT
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    edited July 2020 #141

    You used to be able to try the speed at CMC sites but only with access to club's website. Over the years the clubs website has become so slow that it offers no guidance on haw proper websites might perform using club's wifi

  • SteveL
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    edited July 2020 #142

    I would agree with that assessment, given its performance in recent months, which seems to be worse and more sustained than ever. We can only hope that it is in some way covid related and will start to improve under the new normal.🤞 

  • EasyT
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    edited August 2020 #143

    Do you mean it's got a virus? 

  • SteveL
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    edited August 2020 #144

    Well if some can blame the virus on 5G😂

    Only joking. I just meant that limited resources due to covid could be a contributory factor to its even worse than normal state.

  • timlabourne
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    edited September 2020 #145

    I have paid for the club wifi for a couple of years now and I cant recall ever being able to connect to a useable service - no more I will just use mobile data, its been a complete waste of money for me.

  • honestjohn1
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    edited September 2020 #146

    I agree, another rip off from our so called club!

  • JVB66
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    edited September 2020 #147

    Rip off? i wish our wifi at home was £27 per year for what i use it for, and the Airangel site wifi is designed for surprised

    ps it is not cc wifi ,who do you pay for access?undecided

  • MEL6OBAR
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    edited December 2020 #148

    I personally think the club wifi is good value for money, those of us who use our caravans on a regular basis as quoted by caravaner JVB66 at 4p per day it is excellent value, i have worked out mine to around the same, i think if the people who are using their phones with inclusive deals worked it out they would realise they are paying much more.

    One final thought if you dont like dont pay it simple do without, i remember a letter in the club magazine from a member who was in a fit of rage when the membership price went up by one pound a year a said he would cancel his membership, i wonder if he realised that he saves around £10 on pitch fees per night as opposed to none members !? i wonder if he did it.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited December 2020 #149

    I do exactly as you suggest, Mel, I don't pay. Site wifi is only value for money when and where it works.

    My mobile package gives me so much more and isn't limited to  few club sites. Each to their own, eh?

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited December 2020 #150

    If you use a lot of Club sites over a year I would not argue that the annual subscription is pretty good value. However many of us prefer to use our phones as often the signal it provides is both a fast and a consistent connection which from my experience is not always the case with Club WiFi. We are also buying the data element on our phones for other uses beyond staying on campsites so the extra cost is minimal. Where I digress from agreeing that the Club WiFi is good value are the weekly and daily charges which are far too expensive for the service offered. It seems as though the Club WiFi is geared to selling an annual pass rather than providing a service to those who occasionally require an internet connection because of a weak 4G signal. Personally I feel the weekly charge should be nearer a fiver and the daily charge around one pound. If you were to extrapolate my suggested charges up to an annual rate it would equate to £260 for £5 weekly charge and £365 for the daily charge? The current charges equate to £520 for the weekly charges and £1095 for the current daily charge, so to me there is something wrong there? I understand that there will be more administration involved in buying the weekly and daily charges but considering that the purchase and provision of short time periods costs no more than buying an annual pass as everything is automatic except for perhaps there being more transaction charges I don't see the weekly and daily charges as being reasonable.

    David

  • JVB66
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    edited December 2020 #151

    If you only need to use the cc website you do not need to pay anything as it is free to use when on a club site cool