Wifi Price rise

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  • EasyT
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    edited April 2019 #32

    Not tried the wifi on any mainline C&CC site to know if it is any good. Generally happy with it on CC  sites

  • peedee
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    edited April 2019 #33

    I rarely use either prefering to use my smart phone's data.

    peedee

  • Mikeyj
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    edited April 2019 #34

    I’ll accept that ‘free’ services have to paid for, such as free parking, or free postage.

    So, why is wifi different to electric power, water, waste disposal, showers, all services provided ‘free’ on CAMC sites?

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2019 #35

    So, why is wifi different to electric power, water, waste disposal, showers, all services provided ‘free’ on CAMC sites?
     

    A number of possible reasons. Most outfits on site have at least one member who will make use of toilet facilities. Nearly all will use electric, waste and water services. Many will choose not to use site wifi but might if included in fee. I find the wifi generally good but would it be if all the site were using it? 

    Also no idea what CC's contract structure with air angel might be .... is it still air angel? 

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited April 2019 #36

    The cost of building the infrastructure to provide WiFi on a Club site is a great deal more than the rather simpler systems used in pubs and coffee shops. You are also going to be in such premises for a relatively short period of time so bandwidth might not be such an issue as on a Club site with potentially a 100 users being online at the same time. I am not sure you should equate an understanding of the whys and wherefores of the Club system as being propaganda.

    As to sites abroads, yes I have had been on a few sites with free WiFi but I have also had many with eye wateringly high charges for internet use and often with systems that are less useful than what the Club provides.

    David

  • MichaelT
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    edited April 2019 #37

    Like many on here we have a good data allowance from BT on our mobiles and a mifi with 25GB data from Vodafone however it is only any good if you get a decent signal and on many sites you do not.

    I always thought the £25 a year fee was reasonable if you used club sites often, however what let it down was the abysmal speeds at most sites.  In York Rowntree site which is located right in the city centre the speed was non existent, so the club should really be looking at alternatives to a fixed line.  But in Castleton in th middle of nowhere the speed was great and could not complain as there is hardly a phone signal.

    So I think horses for courses/mix and match if there is a good 3/4G signal use teh phone or mifi if no signal use WiFi if the speed is good.

  • Whittakerr
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    edited April 2019 #38

    I was just expressing a personal opinion regarding wifi.

    I agree there are other thing on site (that i don't use) but would not want to see them go.

  • JulesandPhil
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    edited April 2019 #39

     

    I don’t mind paying if the service is there.  I bought an annual pass in mid May last year at the start of a 6 week trip away thinking it would be more reliable than my phone. Logged into site WiFi last Tuesday to find I’d got 122 hours left - great that will do for most of this 7 week trip.  On Saturday I noticed a flag saying I’d got 104 hours left - wondered if that was right as only used iPad twice a day for maximum of half hour each time.  Have made a note of usage since then. Logged in just now to see time left was down to 94 hours 34 minutes despite total usage since Saturday only 3 hours 45 minutes!  How does that work?  Anyone else encountered a similar problem?  Who and how do I get that time back? 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2019 #40

    Contact Air Angel and see what they say.

    It's the mobile network for me every time.

  • JulesandPhil
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    edited April 2019 #41

    I’ll try them - they were worse than useless when I had a log on problem last year though! 

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2019 #42

    We buy an annual pass and it simply lasts 12 months regardless of usage.

  • SteveL
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    edited April 2019 #43

    I noticed mine was showing the number of hours, although it was in the thousands as I have 6 months left. At one time it showed the number of days, which was a more sensible way of showing how long before you had to pay again. As ET says, the pass last 12 months, even if you only use it for the odd day.

    Up to about 5 years ago, you did buy a number of hours. This was not a good system, as if you had problems logging out you lost time, even though you were not using the system.

  • dmiller555
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    edited April 2019 #44

    The Camping and Caravan Club, like most, CL, CS, and private sites no longer charge for their WiFi service, it's time for the CMC to follow suit. 

    I suppose a simpler statement would be that the CMC are the only site providers to still be charging a separate fee for their WiFi service. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2019 #45

    “…a simpler statement would be that the CMC are the only site providers to still be charging a separate fee for their WiFi service.”

    Not so. Many site operators charge separately and some charge much more than CAMC. 

  • brue
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    edited April 2019 #46

    I can't recall paying for wi fi on other sites although many operate free hot spot areas eg in the cafes or near the reception.

    We don't use club wi fi it is outdated compared to other types of use.

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2019 #47

    I can certainly recall paying for wifi on other sites. For us club wifi is a useful addition to our mifi. The next 12 months will cost £67.50 for our touring wifi. 

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2019 #48

    A lot of "complaints" about low speeds seems to depend on usage on the said site and as stated by the club, the on site wifi is not in place to be used as one gets at home,with only a couple of users ,the majority of sites (not just cc) still do not have high speed internet connections,for us and many others who use club sites often the annual "fee"  to use what is available is very good value,

     

  • brue
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    edited April 2019 #49

    My recall is being given a code to use on other sites but I really can't recall charges although as we all know and you've already mentioned on here EasyT, all costs are included in the price of a site stay.

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2019 #50

    I think i would rather pay £1. 50 for a cup of coffee without WiFi than £3 per cup to get it free? 

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited April 2019 #51

    Geez JV-£1.50😱, are you sure it’s actual coffee?🤔. Most good coffee I’ve found is around £4/5 a shot.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2019 #52

    Grantown on Spey is one site that springs to mind but it’s ‘free’ on the premium pitches. Wood Farm is another.

    Perhaps, like me, you never pay, Brue, and then it doesn’t stick in the mind. 😀

  • Goldie146
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    edited April 2019 #53

    Last week we were on the C&CC site at Bala. Yes, the WiFi was free - but it was appallingly slow. It's a small (45 pitches) site and was almost empty. No Hotspots as far as I know. We got less than 1 mbps, But there was good 4g (EE) so were happy to use our phones.

    Not as fast as at home!

  • SteveL
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    edited April 2019 #54

    Morris Leisure still charge for their WiFi, according to their web site. Haven't stayed for a while but it was about £10 for a week. You were also unable to try before you bought in.

  • SteveL
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    edited April 2019 #55

    Good luck with other types of use at Clumber Brue.😀

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2019 #56

    Not bothered about paying rip off prices for coffee and at the prices you pay its the supplier who should be shot for kidding the gullible  as i normally drink tea no milk or sugar wink 

  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited April 2019 #57

    It’s what suits JV, I relish a good coffee & would pay more for a salted caramel machiato. . .& I have too😊. For £1.50 what you bought would not be anything but chicory I reckon, but if you’re not a coffee person-so be it. . .Tis life👍🏻

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2019 #58

    Its what has been said by most on this thread you pay for what suits you cool 

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2019 #59

     so truesurprised you can get a signal at Carburton Lodge entrance while having their bacon buttiescool

  • brue
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    edited April 2019 #60

    Yes Steve, we've only been there once and queuing to use the phone box when needing frequent contact at home was a big drawback. Also the drop in the CC wifi signal when everyone came back to the site in the evenings.

    We've stayed in places where's there's no signal for anything, no wifi, phones, TV and radio. Sometimes a hotspot might be available as in the Cairngorms but not on the end of the Mull of Kyntyre! 

    We live in the SW, an area where wifi is slow with no sign of improvements and also phone signals can vary. Due to this we've opted for our own wi-fi rather than share and pay with the club provision.

    If some are happy with what's provided and are prepared to pay then at least it's available if needed but it's not for us any more.

  • EasyT
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    edited April 2019 #61

     Yes Steve, in common with some other sites it is five pounds for 3 days and ten pound for a week. If I take up the offer, and as I normally stay five nights I am likely to buy in 3 day periods.