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  • MikeyA
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    edited June 2020 #62

    If the change in social distancing is changed to a metre, I do hope it is from tomorrow. The reason is simple, it will happen anyway and rather than thousands of "lawbreakers" flouting the law (for a short period), without any fear of prosecution, it would be better if these people were seen to be following the law.

    Constant flouting of the law with impunity, will become a mindset of a growing proportion of the population.

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2020 #63

    With the way this very new pandemic has struck and all govenments it seems "hoping?" that what they have done will work , .and our Westminster Cabinet using it seems,  their own take on what their experts advise

    ,It is it seems only just recently that they have started to understand? how  caravans and  motorcaravans are already at social distancing self contained units that in reality had not any need to be still banned from overnighting on campsites when the "any distance travel" was allowed 

  • moulesy
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    edited June 2020 #64

    That would make sense - there is no logic in suggesting it would be safe in a few days time but not safe tomorrow. But Boris said at the weekend the government is "sticking like glue" to its "plan". So I assume the arbitrary date of 4 July, chosen a couple of months ago will be the "release" date.,undecided

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2020 #65

    Quite simply, whatever the (English) Govt chooses to allow, the population will have to get on with it. Individuals and/or households will have to do their own risk assessments, take their own precautions, make their own decisions around what garbled messages eventually eminate from on high.

    The real losers will be the ones forced to go back to work for less caring and unscrupulous employers, who have no choice but to get back to work or risk being unable to feed their families or pay their bills. 

    Most folks have a choice about what Leisure pursuits they will go back to, or refrain from, and how or where they choose to do them.

  • SteveL
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    edited June 2020 #66

    The relaxation of distance travel was well over a month ago JVB. If overnight stays had been permitted at that time, it could have resulted in the movement of large numbers of people about the country and into / out of covid hot spots. Not many are going to travel 100 / 200 miles just for a day trip.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2020 #67

    Actually I find one metre between me and another too close at the best of times, let alone now. If I can smell someone, their last meal, their cigarettes, their cannabis, their drinking habits, their awful perfume, I back off. 

    It’s all about cash extraction. In shops, on buses, planes, trains, cinemas, and camp sites. 

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2020 #68

    But that is just what happened ,with many going to tourist hot spots from just those distances, and it seems when talking to younger folk they think nothing of 100+ miles for a day out,   a two hour journeysurprised

  • EasyT
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    edited June 2020 #69

    Cash extraction is a vital part of the economy.

  • Tammygirl
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    edited June 2020 #70

    Neither of us has Mikey, however for those who feel that it might be a risk then maybe they would choose to do so.

    I've often seen rubber gloves worn when folk empty their cassette so its just one more thing to do if you feel vulnerable.

    It's all about taking responsibility for YOUR  own actions.

  • MikeyA
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    edited June 2020 #71

    I quite agree and the change to 1m will hardly change our attitude to self preservation.

    You did miss out one of the off-putting smells   laughing

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2020 #72

    As the real expert on Andrew Marrs show on Sunday said when asked about reducing to 1mtr ,, he is ok as it is now without face masks and woulds be,  ok with 1mtr IF Facemasks were also made a requirement

  • Tammygirl
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    edited June 2020 #73

    Not in Scotland Steve, we are still being told to stay close to home.

    I agree with you though that it would have caused movement of folk at far greater distances. 

    We have seen a fair few MH's going up the A9 surely they can't all be local.

  • SteveL
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    edited June 2020 #74

    I'm not sure there are any real experts. Just experts, who like in any branch of science all have there own interpretation of what the science means.

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2020 #75

    This could be the chance of a "nice little earner" if the automatic cassette emptying machines are rolled out on all campsites (anyone want to invest?)wink

    They are supplied by the clubs contractor  Caravan Park Electrics who are at Spilsby in Lincslaughing

  • rayjsj
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    edited June 2020 #76

    Same here in Wales, we still have a 5 mile 'leash' from home, with some leeway for rural areas, great if you have a boat, I 'could' go 4 miles out to sea, If I wanted to.

    If we do go away this year, we will be using our own facilities, just need EHU, water, cassette and waste dump.

  • SteveL
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    edited June 2020 #77

    I suppose at least on a CAMC site, there won't be the problem of tracking and tracing folk. Like what might happen in a pub.

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2020 #78

    I think i would be inclined to take more notice of the man on Sundays programme,  as he was and still is involved in the Ebola and original Sars outbreaks,  before this latest Sars related virus struck

  • Cavalier Caravaners
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    edited June 2020 #79

    The SUN online has stated today that government is reviewing campsite/caravan park opening due to concern over shared wash facilities- announcement expected today.

    So the CMHC might have to close facilities in order to open sites- if that is permitted.

    Fingers crossed we an still use the club sites on 4 July

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited June 2020 #80

    Over the lockdown we have been very cautious and it's only in the last 2 or 3 weeks that we have ventured out, first to the pharmacy and then to a garden centre. Yesterday we actually went to our local Waitrose, first time since 12th March. Car park was more than half empty and not many people inside which was encouraging and why we chose Monday afternoon. Having said all that either people have no perception of social distancing or they are just ignoring it. I am not sure that reducing it to one metre will make much difference to the majority of people as most don't get distancing or being aware that others might prefer some space. I think we will still carry on with our weekly deliveries for the time being and probably in the longer term unless COVID comes to a natural end or is cured!!!

    David

  • brue
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    edited June 2020 #81

    Whatever happens the experience on sites will be different and I just hope things are staggered at first. The reality of manic motorway jams on July 4th, queues for everything and crowded holiday areas seems to be looming! 

     

     

     

  • SteveL
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    edited June 2020 #82

    Very much our view David. We will stick with the internet shop, plus local shopping in the village until our planned get away in September. Had an email today, from the leisure club we belong to, which is part of the Warner Hotel Group. It stated that they will not be reinstating our membership until possibly the end of the year, as they will be concentrating on hotel guests. We are actually pleased with that decision, as we weren't confident that they could put in protocols to satisfy us. Saves a bit of money and we will just keep walking in the local forest to keep fit.😀

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2020 #83

    We aren’t planning to head off on holiday anywhere until later. We are treating ourselves today though. We are on our way for a day out in MH, not too far, and fingers crossed where there will only be a few folks😁 If it works out ok, we shall treat ourselves once a week, in splendid isolation. Staying somewhere, touring around will come later, at carefully selected locations. 😁

  • brue
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    edited June 2020 #84

    We're doing the same just now TDA, planning another outing tomorrow. So far we haven't seen anywhere that is too busy. We are booked on two fairly local sites in late July, rural places where we can walk easily. After that a CL is on the list but I didn't want to have to cancel a CL break if the site openings are delayed etc.

  • peedee
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    edited June 2020 #85

    Campsites are to be allowed to open on 4th July.

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  • Heethers
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    edited June 2020 #86

    Why o why are the toilet amenities a problem, supermarkets have had theirs open for while now, l visited a supermarket one on Thursday of last week, no one checking just your common sense, wash your hands, l took wipes in with me as l had to use the toilet it self wiped the seat. Seems to me that the right hand doesn't know what the left is doing. If hairdressers, food outlets, bars,  and gyms are allowed to open, just doesn't make sense not to allow holiday and tourism to do the same. What a wacko world we live in

  • peedee
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    edited June 2020 #87

    No detail available yet but the Club might have it????

    I still have nowhere booked.

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  • JillwithaJay
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    edited June 2020 #88

    Toilets can be open if they are kept clean !!!!  Somebody's having a laugh.  Some folks can't even flush the toilet so who's going to police that one and run in and out of the block checking each time somebody's been in?

    I've nothing planned now until the end of September.

  • AnnB
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    edited June 2020 #89

    Well I’m off to Burrs 5th July.  Set up my ‘hygiene pack’ for the van with gloves, masks, alcohol gel and disinfectant so prepared for any visit to the facilities block.

  • Heethers
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    edited June 2020 #90

    Sorry you will always get those sort of individuals, even in early lockdown they were abusing the guidelines, its up to us to police it, l agree with you on how some individuals will never alter but now we are in a different mind set than we were before lock down, so you would hope those people will see sense. l for one wont shy away from letting someone know if they are not adhering to the guidelines, l would hope others will too

  • peedee
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    edited June 2020 #91

    I think the Government is putting the economy before lives but probably has little choice..

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