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  • ErnieJH
    ErnieJH Forum Participant Posts: 114
    edited June 2020 #182

    I totally agree, I would not go on anything but a serviced pitch now, and I think many people will feel the same way. There needs to be a major increase in the number of service pitches available if the club wants to keep up with the commercial sites and attract customers.

  • DEBSC
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    edited June 2020 #183

    If you want advice Takethedog I would say that is too far, the journey will become arduous. Ours is a four hour journey and I would say that is the down side. The van is in the right place and suits what we want from it but we would like to half the journey time, especially as we get older.

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2020 #184

    We are also looking at having a non tow holiday home ,   in the not to distant future   ,and with what has happened this year and likely to be with us for a long time ,the idea  has come nearer ,we shall have a seriose ,think next year, 

    We are also "lucky" in that train travel for us is a great way of going long distances (cost nil)and we would then hire or keep a car where the "static" is

    We had given thought to maybe having another PVC but would find ablutions,problematic (as before)compared to the c/van,as OH is "vunerable" 

  • EasyT
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    edited June 2020 #185

    No idea where you live TW but as you referred to Cornwall I thought you were referring to a particular area

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2020 #186

    It does help thank you. We would be super cautious, do a lot of investigating, all the legalities, in and outs. We thought travel distance might be too long, however, if we did go for something more like a lodge, it could well become our “first home” in the right area. Doesn’t have to be Cornwall or SW, damp might be against us there, but we love Northumberland, Borders, Lothian area. Easy travel for us as well, either A1 or East Coast mainline. It’s still very much an idea, we aren’t near our State Pensions yet, but great to think we could have the option. On the plus side, we could visit lovely Yorkshire for our holidays😁😂

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2020 #187

    Be aware of the licensing terms of the park/site as a holiday licence will not allow van owners to make it their main home and proof of a UK residence may be required. It's the holiday licensed sites that hit the headlines when permanent residents are turfed out for breaking the terms.

    Residential parks are the opposite and generally require you to declare that the unit will be your main UK residence. The right to live on that pitch is granted in perpetuity. The 'main home' requirement prevents it becoming a ghost town in winter.

  • Lyke Wake Man
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    edited June 2020 #188

    it's a pity the club is NOT prepared to offer an extension of membership for the sites being closed, I personally am a member for the C.L.s

    the club offers aren't relevant while we have  being unable to use our outfits, so a 5 month extension of membership would be fair, we have paid our membership and got nothing for it.

     

    Come on Caravan club, the other club is extending membership for the months the sites where closed, why cant you

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2020 #189

    You are right about Holiday parks with statics ,you will find" if memory is correct" they can only be for a 10 month max availability and cannot be used as your main residence,

    which is not the same as a Park Home site where it is your normal main residence 

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2020 #190
    • 5 month extension on this years membship?  i undersand the ccc is not extending this years membership ,but is giving an extension fo how long their sites are closed when "renewing" next year
  • brue
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    edited June 2020 #191

    Sadly someone has now died at the home and they have been unable to get repeat tests. Without access to testing the risk is out there for everyone especially anyone connected with the home and their contacts. 

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2020 #192

    Thanks, I would be asking for help if we went for it😁 So many pitfalls and what ifs.

    I don’t think we would sell up here, it’s ours and fully paid for, and god forbid, should our health deteriorate, it’s possibly an easy place to be, we would be thinking long term as well. 

  • brue
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    edited June 2020 #193

    We've gone through the same scenario several times, basically we don't want to go to the same place too often so chalets, statics, seasonal pitches have gradually gone on the back burner. What I do regret is not buying something when places were relatively cheap and the family could have enjoyed it too. 

    We have a holiday place next to us, the owners make a very long journey down from the Nottingham area, horrible M Way journeys that they tend to do at night. I'm not sure whether they are really going to continue for much longer, health and age are creeping in the wrong direction.

    It's nice to think about these things and there's usually a solution that suits different situations. smile

  • EasyT
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    edited June 2020 #194

    Not always the case. I used to use a site called Claylands near Garstang where I would go off fishing there and in the area for long weekends. Many lived in their statics for about 50 weeks of the year going off on holiday for the other two weeks. There is two separate fee rates. One for 10 months and one for 10 months and 6 weeks. 

  • Wherenext
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    edited June 2020 #195

    The thought of a static has crossed our minds, in a "What if..." scenario type of way and we've kept an eye out as we've travelled around thd country.

    At the moment we enjoy touring too much to commit to one but there is always the distinct possibility of my health finally forcing me into giving the caravanning up. There are ways of using dialysis that are self administered and if I was able to then I would want to have a second place such as a static/lodge to break up any boredom with being stuck in one place. However whilst fit I'm still for touring.

    This virus though does make one start to consider safer options of continuing the pre virus norms.

  • brue
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    edited June 2020 #196

    In our recent day trips out with the van we have felt relatively "safe" with our own stuff around us and I think caravanners will feel the same. You won't be using beds and furniture etc previously used and occupied and you can keep your own "world" as safe as possible. It's not going to be the same but at least we all have a bit of a safety barrier.

    Parked up last week, we found people walking under our open windows etc. This is something that's going to happen so you've just got to be prepared for feeling different about things and adapt to the circumstances. I think both clubs have asked people not to cut across pitches when sites open, requests like this will need a bit more consideration.

    If the social distancing is reduced I just hope people respect that some would still like a bit more space. smile

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  • DEBSC
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    edited June 2020 #198

    There are good site owners out there, as we have found. Do your homework, choose carefully. Speak to the potential neighbours. Study the contract. (Three days for us, the site said they had never had anyone ask so many questions. A career checking contracts makes me wary) It's like buying a car, there will be a lot of depreciation, it's not bricks and mortar, so personally I wouldn't spend too much on it. And, for us, we love it, just really wish we had done it 5 years sooner.

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2020 #199

    The one thing we thought about when looking at holday parks ,is the length of the time they open some are qiute short seasons ,below the max 10 month  legal period usually allowed by the local councils,

    At our age we would not buy a new static,as the outlay would not be worth it as the depreciation ,as with most things can be quite high ,and depending on area the ground rent and other expenses can be quite considerable "£5000 at Haven +extras?

     

     

  • eurortraveller
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    edited June 2020 #200

    We have a bolthole. We have lived in it for 40 years.  It was ruinous then, but we worked on it. And how. 

    It is far too isolated, has several rooms we no longer even go into,  and has far too much land than is sensible  - but wild horses wouldn't drag us away.  And considering what a care home would charge per week we will stay here and buy in assistance instead when that day comes. 

  • moulesy
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    edited June 2020 #201

    "I have considered the options for continuing when long distance towing may be a problem but would not put myself in the hands of a a park operator."

    What would worry you about that,  David? We signed a contract for a 15 year lease when we bought our van. It has been honoured by the new owners, in fact we have had an extension on the lease. We did our homework before buying, decided against any site "company run" and have never had a moment's regret. And it hasn't stopped us touring further afield, both in this country and further abroad. Best of all possible worlds in our view. smile

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited June 2020 #202

    I can well believe that figure from various advertisements I have seen! That works out at around £400 a month. That's enough for more than a few nights in a budget hotel each month!!! I appreciate that it can be done for less. It has crossed our minds, especially if it was something the boys wanted to be involved with but it is tying and lacks the flexibility of other types of holiday. We like where we live and have no need to "get away" per se. When we do go away its more about discovering new places so a fixed location would, I imagine, not really be for us. Wouldn't do if we all thought the same.

    David

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2020 #203

    All sorts of options😁We did look at doing what you did EuroT, somewhere in SW, but our house was bought as a project many years ago, liveable at the time, but needed lots of work. It’s now just about finished, but as you say, too many underused rooms. But we do love it. So we decided not to go through the same again.

    I could get on with a two bed lodge type affair somewhere really nice, even if it’s only for 10 months. We kept a second big van on a farm in Cornwall for years, using it around 5-6 times a year. We even did weekends! We would only go on something quite small though, not bothered about holiday park type affairs. It would be all about the area for us, and proximity to coast. We do occasionally see some lovely looking places, well off the beaten track. 

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  • MikeyA
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    edited June 2020 #205

    Same for us David. I can see us moving over to a motorhome but going to the same place every time as with a static is a step too far.

    Depending at what age our touring finally ends, I could see us taking more short break European holidays in addition to our 2 week AI holidays. I suppose it all depends on insurance costs, health and just as important if that common affliction, of loss of confidence with age, starts to affect us.

     

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2020 #206

    I think some are really good as well though. It’s all about doing the homework, asking the right questions, possibly taking legal advice. I am thinking of somewhere small, quiet, definitely nothing like Haven or a big multi Site company. Ideally somewhere the neighbours don’t pack up every weekend, or you can hear the latest influx of kids screaming in the swimming pool.😱

    Yours sounds nice M. 😁 There’s something similar sounding down near Mousehole, only 16 pitches. Family owned, but I suspect the family own and let all 16 outfits.

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2020 #207

    Residential parks(some) were in the past at times problematic for those on them ,but their residents status has been much more secure with the regulations introduced in the past years 

    Holiday parks are not covered by such regulations, and it has we have found a good idea to visit and speak to those owners with statics on the site before committing to buy one for ones own use

    We have looked at some in Norfolk ,and it is very much an eye opener ,how they differ from each other as per how they are run ,also in what is and is not allowed,in the same area even,  ,we have found 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2020 #208

    Residential parks are regulated by law which gives a lot of protection to home owners. It is different from that governing holiday home ownership.

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2020 #210

    There are good and bad in all walks of life, David, but it is important for anyone contemplating a purchase of either type of unit to understand the difference in licensing and law in order that they may avoid pitfalls. I would hate to see anyone here make the wrong decision.

  • moulesy
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    edited June 2020 #211

    That may be so for residential parks - ours is a mixed park, still some tourers,  increasingly seasonal pitches and a small number  (26 spread across 3 fields) of static caravans like ours. More and more of the formerly touring sites in the area are going over to this style of mixed accommodation and I'd guess that will be increasingly the case in the post Covid and energy conscious times we're heading for. 

    Since we've been on the site, nearly 10 years now, a number of folk have moved on and the  site owner has bought the vans off them and exported them to Spain!  smile