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  • SteveL
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    edited June 2020 #152

    I think sometimes we kid ourselves about privacy. Even without an app with are being monitored to a greater or lesser extent

    Indeed. Since I installed my Christmas present the other day, our doorbell now takes a video clip of every caller and stores it in the cloud for a month.

  • peedee
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    edited June 2020 #153

    I do the same, Bedford is a bit of a hotspot.

    peedee

  • peedee
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    edited June 2020 #154

    I always think those that worry most about security have the most to hide.  However there are risks out there. I have just received this from an ex work colleague.One of our group members has had his email address spoofed and we were receiving messages which would have been dangerous to click on.

    "Many other sites have been hacked and mined for email addresses, for example My Heritage the genealogy site lost 92 million records which had email addresses and passwords in them. Adobe lost 153 million emails and passwords, Dropbox 68 million emails and passwords, Linked In 164 million emails and passwords, even Tesco had a minor breach of a few thousand addresses and passwords.

    You can check if your email is on any hacking list at https://haveibeenpwned.com/ , whilst I can not offer 100% guarantee the site is safe, it has been checked out by many security experts who believe it to be safe and it is recommend by Which if that is any recommendation."

    The BBC is also warning about spoof calls being made purporting to come from test and trace.

    Take care

    peedee

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2020 #155

    Yes I use the post code link, but if you go down to the map, zoom in, it allows you to pinpoint each green dot, which in our area highlights each individual area within our town, a bit like election Ward areas. So I can see which areas of our town has had the greater number of deaths. (Apologies if this is what you are doing as well) Using the post code just gives me the Local Authority.

  • brue
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    edited June 2020 #156

    When I tried to get a home test recently I had to give my name, date of birth, NI number, full address, mobile and e mail. Then I was given a code to confirm my email. I then had to agree to a security to check on these details to confirm who I was. If I didn't agree I could ask for a drive in test only. I agreed to all these things and the message came back that my identity couldn't be confirmed/they had run out of tests for that day/ try a drive in application...

    By the time I'd done this repeatedly for both types of test I realised I was taking part in a comedy sketch.

    The reply which said "even if you are successful in your application for a test you may not get one" summed it up.

    Maybe I should have fibbed and said I was a key worker but I bypassed that tick box!

    My identity is now floating around in the chaos of logarithms that some think will solve the world's problems!

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited June 2020 #157

    Brue

    I remember once trying to get a state pension quote and online it just would not accept my details. When I phoned the pension office they said can we please check your details and turned out that they still had an address I had moved from at least 20 years before!! 

    If you had gone to one of the drive in testing centres would you not have had to give the same details? Just wondering if there is a flaw in the system that is causing the problem with not being able to contact people who have had tests?

    David 

  • brue
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    edited June 2020 #158

    David. I think all my details will be up to date on the gov system, no problems with where I live judging by the usual things I receive. Yes, the same details are given before getting a drive in test because you have to book an appointment (our nearest test centres would all involve a two hour round trip plus waiting etc.) We've heard locally that a test centre is coming to Taunton without appointments, which sounds easier. 

    I believe appointments so far have not been easy to get, I gave up on that one and at the time didn't feel well enough to go and queue up etc.

    So, I can well believe the system might be flawed for contact tracing because obtaining a test is a bit of a game. I suspect ticking the key worker box might produce results...it asks if you are working at present, intend to work etc.

  • John Snowball
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    edited June 2020 #159

    Regarding track and trace app on your phones, a Covid tracker is already there on your phone ready to go. On an iPhone go to settings, then Privacy and then Health. On android phones it is in settings then google settings. When enabled iPhone can exchange random IDs with other devices using Bluetooth. This will enable an app to warn you if you have been exposed to COVID 19. It came in with iOS 13.5 on May 20. 

  • peedee
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    edited June 2020 #160

    See the BBC article about it >here<

    peedee

  • SteveL
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    edited June 2020 #161

    That's interesting. My iphone updated the other day to 13.5.1 and the option is there, to switch on once there is an App.

    Does that means those with older iPhones, OH has a 5s, which isn't that ancient and there are still a lot about, but is limited to 12.4.7 won't work with the App? If the case it seems rather daft, not everyone wants the latest phone.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2020 #162

    The tool appeared after my latest Android update too. It needs Bluetooth and, obviously, the installation of a participating app to activate it.

  • geoffeales
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    edited June 2020 #163

    I really don't have the heart to go through all of the previous letters on this subject, so I apologise if I'm reinventing the wheel here, but I'm sure like many others we have decided to cancel our two bookings for 2020 as we are in the vulnerable category. Two points to make, first, I'd have thought the pull-down menu for cancellations would have an option for "Coronavirus concerns" (as it is we chose "illness") and point two, will caravanning ever be the same again? Surely one of the main areas must be toilet blocks. In the grand scale of things, would it not be a long-term investment for the club to provide full-service facilities on all pitches? This would mean that we could all enjoy complete isolation and "carry on camping" in safety

  • Metheven
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    edited June 2020 #164

    frown or smile My phone is now two years old and does not update anymore,  but it still works, must be many many like me with with older Android versions running that will never have this update for an app.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2020 #165

    It's the same with the iPhone I was using until earlier this year which has now been passed to my OH. It makes the whole thing a bit farcical really.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2020 #166

    Thanks for this, cousin in London just made us aware. We haven’t done that update, so that’s obviously why we couldn’t find it. Very sneaky😡

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2020 #167

    It’s all somewhere on the thread Geoff😁 Keep safe, by the time Club charge for a full service pitch, you might as well sell the van and book a cottage!😂

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2020 #168

    I'm hearing early news of an outbreak of C19 in a Cornish care home. 😕

    It is still with us.

  • DEBSC
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    edited June 2020 #169

    After much deliberation, and after a great many years of touring, as some on here may remember, we sold our touring van and bought a static van. To be honest we have never regretted it. Especially now, like Geoff we are in the vulnerable group and under no circumstances would we use a tourer this year. Having said that we aren't sure when our park will open. The owner has said it won't be July 4 as there will be a stampede, he thinks that is why the government is delaying the announcement, as people will plan. A last minute announcement may spread out the rush. I think he could be right.

  • EasyT
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    edited June 2020 #170

    It is still with most of us TW. 

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2020 #171

    Funnily enough, it’s got us pondering. We did consider buying something by the seaside many years ago, before prices got stupid, and we were both still working. But we did something different instead at the time. I have a sneaky feeling this virus is going to come back again and again, so we have pondered again on buying a second bolt hole that we could use for holidays and lockdown into for a change. Needs a lot of exploring, and at the moment I still have Mum to care for, who will not move under any circumstances, but something like a nice static on a small site, or a cabin would suit us fine. We would need to explore the set up closely, make sure of year long accessibility alongside lots of other considerations. The MH would possibly go, but we could keep our little touring van. Depends on location as well. 🤔

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2020 #172

    So sad, fingers crossed for all. We are still taking every precaution we can, folks are being very blasé and uncaring at times now. I still don’t feel safe in some environments, certainly avoiding shopping as much as possible. It’s very difficult, a seesaw between personal safety and wanting to see economy re opening. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2020 #173

    It is a balancing act and we can only hope the Govt keeps that balance. The economy is very important but so are people's lives.

  • moulesy
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    edited June 2020 #174

    We did similar,  although for different reasons,  when I retired, buying our static on a small family run site. Only 15 vans in our field and many of them occupied full time so it's been reassuring to know that the neighbours have been there to keep an eye on things for us. We only decide to finally give up the touring van last year - it had got to the point where the cost of storage, insurance and servicing was far more than we were prepared to pay for the number of nights we we were using it. Also some repairs needed so it made sense to sell up.

    We are desperately looking forward to going down again and, if the go ahead is given, we'll be there on July 4th but it won't be quite as carefree as previous visits for a long while yet.

     

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2020 #175

    That's what I said 🤷‍♂️

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2020 #176

    Fully agree. It’s going to be sad for many, but there were some very precarious businesses out there prior to to this pandemic, and also some lifestyles teetering on the edge, a couple of months salary away from implosion. Very very difficult. 

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited June 2020 #177

    I have found a very nice site we like down in Cornwall, we actually had a look around many years ago. Quiet and tucked away. Does statics and cabins. Might be too far though, even with foot to floor and doing all motorway, it’s still six hours for us each way, with no stops and no traffic. Looking at 10 hours if we do it none stop in usual traffic but no hold ups...... 

  • moulesy
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    edited June 2020 #178

    Yes, that is one big advantage of living where we do, close to the M4/M5 interchange - we can head in virtually any direction anywhere in the country reasonably easily. To Cornwall we usually leave at 6 and can be there for 9 just as the garden centre cafe is opening for breakfast - we walk in and the waitress looks up and says "2 bacon & egg sandwiches and 2 cappuccinos is it?" Though I fear she may have forgotten by the time we get down there again! frown

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited June 2020 #179

    The last thing you want is for that journey to become a chore, TDA, as that would rob you of the joy.

    We considered a static many years ago but evenyually decided against. Now we live within a few hundred yards of that site and don't much care for the changes we see there. Realising our touring days are coming to their conclusion, we have considered the static option again but don't feel we want to take on the responsibility of ownership at this stage in our lives. Simple is good👍

  • DEBSC
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    edited June 2020 #180

    I would recommend it, it's opened a whole new lease of life for us, neighbours are mostly our age and we now have some new great friends (BBQ and wine buddies) We did a lot of homework and viewing, about a year. Ours is in the right place (if a little far away, but good for other reasons) On a well established site. We have a good and 50 year contract. Most of all it won't ever be sold to developers for building, as many are now, because It is on a flood plain. Not a problem as its on floats, the site owners are good at handling any floods and they fully insure us new for old.Would hate to be told 'move your van we've sold the site for building' nightmare. We checked out our neighbours before we bought, they all said they loved it. It's an old van, nothing sparkly but then our kids and their families use it a lot so I'm not precious about it. When my Dad was alive we took him with us, he loved to sit out and enjoy the peace and quiet.Hope this helps Takethedog. We just love it.

  • JVB66
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    edited June 2020 #181

    Watching the Andrew Marr show this morning ,and interviewswith those who know rather than those who think they are above all that  ,We will be living with this and other possibly more dangerous viruses for many years to come frown