Coronavirus Discussion
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Hi all
just to start off. If the councils are not opening their public toilets because they are worried about the safety of the cleaning staff, why is it ok for the clubs toilet & shower facilities to be open?
Are they not like public toilets?
Are not the staff at the same risk as the other cleaners?
Cheers all👍
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I feel sorry for the wardens, for the extra work cleaning the facilities they will have to do. In the Q&A on the subject, the Club suggest that if you are able to use your own facilities, it might be advisable to do so, thus avoiding queuing etc. As most do have their own facilities this would be helpful I think.
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I thought some decided not to open toilets to try and deter visitors, rather than the problem of managing them. Not council but Forestry Commission, where we visited yesterday. Toilets were open but only the disabled ones, for general use. Public toilets don't of course normally have showers. It is those I would see as the main risk. It's difficult to avoid breathing in steamy air, whilst you can easily wash your hands after touching surfaces.
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In all honesty we are responsible for our own safety, if we choose to use a 3rd party convenience it is down to us. MM has worked & has used 3rd party toilets. I’ve used store toilets. If sites open it’s up to each individual to call it👍🏻.
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The Club have no doubt done thorough risk assessments and put appropriate safety measurements in place to reduce risk as far as possible on all sites they intend to re-open. Of course, it is impossible to fully eliminate risk and it will obviously remain an individual choice as to whether you book a site under the conditions the Club impose.
I've got 3 bookings over the next few months, 2 of which are on sites with no washing/toilet facilities. I'll be using my own facilities regardless on the full facilities site.
I'm expecting a few changes on sites; contactless arrival, 2 metre tape on paths, queuing for service points etc. but on the whole the Club sites are naturally well set up for social distancing and so long as members act in a sensible and safe manner then reopening should not be a major problem and we can all get back to enjoying our hobby.
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In our area it wasnt the safety of staff that was the big issue, although i am sure it was a consideration, it was trying to balance the work force and direct them into areas they deemed to be the most in need of services such as waste collection door to door and normal street bins and our council did a sterling job.
Some public toilets are now open as are some car parks, but the height barriers have remained in place on most and the slip ways are closed.
If a stricter cleaning regime has to be introduced on sites and the staff are to wear more efficient ppe, how are sites with only 2 wardens going to cope with the extra work load, and the coronavirus is not going to go away any time soon so it would have to be a cleaning regime designed for the long haul.
en-suite pitches are already available in the UK and more so in France
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Well, its been so overdone on here it has got tedious and by the way I am not so sure Wardens have to clean the facilities under the threat of the virus. Did not the government say employees had a right to refuse to do tasks if they thought the risks were too high?
In any case the first move is for sites to open and even that has not been confirmed only planned.
peedee
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well you clean your own whilst on the pitch and then when you leave a cleaner comes along to give it a deep clean, not rocket science
Most have a toilet/shower/sink and small kitchen area, something like this would also help with social distancing , give the curtain twitchers less to observe also as there would be less movement around the site,0 -
You have ED, apologies😨😊
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Good for them but are you talking toured only sites?or the very large sites you seem to use ,when you book your reserved pitch,
I think in this country on those multipurpose type large sites they can afford to do the same with their multiple income streams
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Falling, but slowly, in Wiltshire, PD, and I believe much of the increase in R in the South West was down to the incident at Weston-super-Mare hospital.
Speculation about what is going to happen is pointless, I guess, but I was disappointed by the Business Minister's non-answer to the question about caravan sites last night. It would have been a good opportunity to at least let folk know what dialogue was being had with clubs and site organisations.
Simon Calder was asked a similar question on ITV's coronavirus Q&A programme on Monday night and said he was at a loss to explain the continuing reluctance to discuss opening self contained accommodation such as cottages and static vans. He also said he'd been lobbying hard for that to change.
But non-answers seem to be the order of the day on the daily briefings just now and maybe not surprisingly given the debacle overy primary school reopening.
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We moved all our bookings / deposits for our tour of Scotland this May / June to the same time next year. However, it seems that for visiting NTS we might have been premature. In today's paper it is reported that The NTS have warned that some of its house and gardens might not open until 2022 as they could not comply with social distancing or sustain running costs. So we may have to revise our itinerary, especially if other properties do the same.
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I monitor it everyday. There has been a couple of new cases here in MK in the last couple of days and yesterday there was unfortunately another death but that was the first one for about ten days. What I find puzzling is that the UK don't seem to be giving a figure for those that have recover from the virus. John Hopkins University quotes the UK figure for recovered as 1257 but I think that includes dependent territories. Our local news source states everyday that the NHS don't issue recovery figures which I find a bit strange.
David
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Daily new cases across UK are still in four figures, I think it was something around 1500 yesterday. Varies of course greatly from region to region. There’s always a drastic drop of deaths over the weekend, I think lowest was 55 on Sunday or Monday, but then yesterday it was back up to 286. Something to do with when deaths are recorded, but it’s been like this throughout.
Locally, we are in a strange place. On one town border we have an area with one of the highest UK figures, (Sheffield) ,on the opposite town border, we have an area recording one of the lowest UK figures. They are demographically very different. Govt figure for us over weekend was no increase in cases, and no deaths. Yesterday showed 5 new cases and thankfully again, no deaths.
Urban areas are as to be expected showing the greatest number of cases and deaths. Sheffield’s statistics are not a true reflection of what is happening locally, as one of the Sheffield hospitals was designated back in March as somewhere for C19 cases to go after returning from overseas. Hence the statistics might not reflect this. It also has three huge hospitals that serve as regional centres, specialising in different health conditions.
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I’ve been checking the rate of positive test (Wigan MBC) since the beginning. I know it doesn’t give all the cases but its useful as a comparison of similar data week by week.
The weeks around Easter had a weekly total of positive cases around the 150 mark. This dropped to 33 by last Monday and down to 18 for the 7 days ending with yesterday’s figures.
I was waiting for some good news when the question about camping and cottages was asked but we got nothing. I’m sure the Ministers are told not to answer anything that doesn’t fall within their sphere of responsibility, either that or they don’t understand how camping works.
Im hopeful that maybe next week we will have some more news.
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The problem with the release of lockdown on holidays is the movement around the country of lots of people and some very large influxes of visitors to certain areas. Our local Somerset stats say there is a rise in confirmed cases. I listened to More or Less on radio 4 this morning which discussed the variations in statistics and testing etc. It's worth a listen if you're interested.
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East Yorkshire +43 cases as of 9/5/2020.
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Fair point & that’s why I was wearing mask & surgical gloves around Asda this am. I’m not a gambler, I choose life👍🏻
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As a regular listener to radio4 I love More or Less generally, but the ones on the virus stats have been extra fascinating, didn't catch all of this mornings, phone call 🙁, but in will catch it later on Sounds. If you're interested in the stats and figures given by HMG it's worth listening to all the recent ones. Especially testing numbers 😉
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, One up side maybe it will reduce the amount of problems if cleaning your own on pitch toilet of others seeing the mees that some leave
