Corona Virus Concerns
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Interesting conversation with a tracker at a call centre on radio4 today programme this morning. Apparently if the contactee says they won't isolate and quotes a certain DC as their reason they have no scripted answer to offer ......
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Ice cream van just gone up our road playing its happy tune. It's the one that's been trying to muscle in on our long established family run round 😡🤐
I heard it got quite heated last year!
Not sure if allowed but we wont being using them.
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Just jumping in here eurotraveller. Not about track and trace particularly but our grandchildren and family live in Sai Kung, they have done for 10 years now. We have probably eaten in The Conservatory as we have visited a few times. Small world eh?! Our daughter in law has also commented on how well things have worked there.
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Small world indeed. Rob went off as a backpacker working his way round the world and said he would be back in 6 months - that was 28 years ago but the last 25 years have been in Hong Kong.
Starting as a waiter, then a barman he found a clever wife - and investors to help finance a tiny cafe part way up the escalator, and things grew from there. If you Google enotecagroup.com you will see which of the businesses have survived, and which have fallen by the wayside. Send your family in to say hello !
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I rather think that example falls into the same category as most other MPs of all persuasions who returned to their own homes . But what this particular incident shows, sadly, is that just as the nation was, by and large, coming together again after 3 years of tribalism, we are now in danger of being at each other's throats again. And that is very sad.
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So are the 3 or 4 systems sync'ed? If I travel into England and am mentioned as a contact but have returned to Wales will I receive instructions from England or Wales and if in Wales will I have to follow English instructions if they vary from Welsh ones? or Vice Versa?
Clear as mud, particularly as our lot doesn't start until Monday.
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Serious question - is there some sort of "appeals procedure"? I mean I know I haven't been within 2 metres of anyone (other than Mrs M) for 15 minutes since the whole lockdown started. So what happens if I'm contacted (in error as I'd consider it.)
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Government by headless chicken. The bodies are twitching, but the central intelligence unit is no longer with us. We watched in awe the USA, but it’s hopped the Atlantic now......😂
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might be a bit of a dogs dinner, but we have to start somewhere if life is ever to return to some sort of normality and when the figures today suggest 80 pct of those infected may be asynomptic we could just be heading in the right direction.
Countries like South Korea who rely heavily on track and trace/testing gained valuable experience from the likes of the SAR's epedemic so are 10-15 years ahead of us in experience, so lets not knock it, embrace what we can and get on with it, things could have been a whole lot worse.
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Made us chuckle with the 6 months bit! Our son, in early 2004, asked us if we would board his 3 cats as they (him, his wife and our 1 year old granddaughter) were going to Singapore for 6/12 months with his job. Moved to HK 10 years ago. He hasn’t been back yet!!! We no longer have the cats! 😂
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agreed, we certainly have a lot of pseudo prime ministers on CT....
and if any of them wanted to have a go, id certainly vote for them, as they seem to have all the answers....
bish, bash, bosh....there you are, CV sorted.
right, what's next, global energy crisis, world overpopulation, climate change?
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Our daughter decided against Christchurch Canterbury uni - too far from home. Swopped to Essex uni and stayed at home. Met a lad who'd emigrated to NZ when he was 4, born in the same hospital as her and if I could do a decent throw, lived a stone's throw away until he went! he came back on his overseas travel, she met him about a year before she finished. She graduated and went over with him 12.5 years ago 🤔🤣.
Bad parents want to get away? Good parents give them a good grounding and wings to fly?
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That's a bit harsh BoleroBoy
I think most are voicing sensible concerns and joined up thinking.
I'm not sure many or any would want the job at the moment - me at anytime! As my dear old nan used to say, (born 1896 we're slow starters in our family 😉) I wouldn't want it for a pension. Remember pensions weren't about to begin with for her - ooops a bit like today's youngsters but theirs are just set so far in their future rather than not existing 😱
After all we are supposed to be being led by the brightest well educated for leadership and the best, with alledgedly good expert advice on hand 🤐 I'll say no more!
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One of my mates just phoned on a number witheld line - said he was a Track and Trace volunteer and that I had been in contact with the virus and had to isolate for 14 days. Lucky I recognised his voice. Any more hoaxes yet?
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harsh?...merely observational...
Rufs and others have pointed out how easy it is to relentlessly knock those who are trying to guide us through this situation.
I support his post, its just so easy to be critical.
if you think that's not the case then thats fine
ill save my vote
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Agreed - I wouldn't want to be doing that job, but I don't think that excludes me (or anyone else) from expressing an opinion does it - any more than, say criticising the running of a leisure company when one would have no desire to be in charge of it!
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Sorry if I sound harsh. I am having problems coming to terms with just how many folks are so accepting of such low expectations and performance from our politicians and political system (all parties).
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Am I alone in thinking (aloud
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Are they all getting different expert scientific advice?
Just asking!
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why can we not have a full shut down in the uk we are a island
say two weeks everyone stays home in isolation
no one gets in at the seaports and air ports
the virus dies down we get back on the road to enjoy our caravan and motorhome travels
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so lets not knock it, embrace what we can and get on with it, things could have been a whole lot worse.
1. We were the last major European country to be affected by this pandemic.
2. We were blasé to say the least about it affecting us at all.
3. We did nothing to prevent its incursion. No checks at entry points to the country.
4. Cobra sat for the first few times without the PM being bothered to join in.
5. Our message was lost almost immediately as the PM was not only seen at a Rugby game in early March but also shaking hands, for goodness sake, with C19 patients. Then we had Herd Immunity. Quickly altered to self isolation. Mixed messages.
6. Our stock of PPE was out of date by at least 11 years yet we were told that the NHS staff were incorrect and that suffcient stocks were available and were ok to use. Testing for the first 6 weeks or so was abysmal.
7. Care Homes were completely ignored as were home care assistants until about the 8th.week.
8. We have the worst death figures in Europe and one of the worst in the world.
9.And the English PM has forgotten that his jurisdiction in certain aspects is just that, for England, but more mixed messages.
10. To cap it all he insults us by standing by a mere advisor for destroying Public confidence in the Governments messages of duty to everyone.
Yet you think that we should put a good spin on it because" it could be worse" and BB thinks that we should all stop knocking this Government. I dread to think of what it would have taken for some people to see the calamity that has unfolded. 50,000 deaths? Won't be long. How about those people who state "It could have been a whole lot better"? If they voice their concerns they are told they are moaners and it is easy to knock the govt.
They had a chance to get us prepared but lost valuable time by not taking it seriously enough to start with. They failed in not having enough protective equipment available. They failed by not having a cohesive strategy. They failed Care Home staff, Residents and Home Care Assistants.
It's a good job there are some people willing to take them to task as there are enough of others who are turning a blind eye to it and accepting that they did their best. I personally think they were given a fair run for a long time but facts are facts and nearly 40,000 deaths at least is a poor result whichever way you look at it.
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