Brave New World?
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The way things seem to be going on Mainland Europe,even Germany now admit their figures are below what was first thought?
And if other countries also find after lock down the figure start to increase (Italy it seems could now get a second spike)then Boris is not going to release us any time soon and as noticed by many it seems , the UK lockdown is getting ragged round the edges ,he may even up the anti
Speaking to most of the members we meet or are in contact with only one couple of the 17 we converse and meet with are expecting to be wanting to use their LVs this year,
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Yes it was, David, even if you find that hard to take!
My point was that, if we've learnt anything at all from the present situation it's the importance of seizing one's chances whenever they come. Rather than regretting something that's not possible regard it as an opportunity to do/visit/ experience something new.
Remember I did suggest an alternative (also well meant) to you when Cuba became unavailable. Had you taken that up, you'd at least have had a holiday this year. You might even have discovered it was "better" than Cuba!
As I think it was euroT said, a few posts ago "spread your wings"! 👍
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what evidence do you have of a second spike in Italy....theyve only just eased some of their restrictions...
re cases..any Govt can only report what it knows....and that is when someone is tested....either out in the field (with the ramp up testing) or in hospitals when a patient comes in...
any extrapolation of these know numbers into 'guestimates' of the total effect (cases or deaths) can only be based on the pandemic modelling we have already in place...
as the Medical men have been trying to get over for a few days now (as the press seize on the UK now having the highest number of deaths in europe), the only real measure is the 'excess deaths over the normal numbers during the pandemic'.
prior to the pandemic, if the BBC news posted the 'normal' number of deaths each night it would be a harrowing experience, mainly as the public dont actually realise what a huge number of people die in the uk every day....of all sorts of things....and the older/vulnerable ones have always been susceptible to 'flu' type virusses which can often be fatal...
only after this is over, we will then know what the difference was between a 'normal' year and this one...
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see the photo above....now show me yours....ugh!
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you evidence, you know....what youve just found on the net that tells you italy is gping to have a second spike....as in your post..
im waiting...
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"Sigh" - it was a genuine suggestion at the time, David, and, I'm willing to bet I've mentioned Costa Rica less, and in less threads, than you've mentioned Cuba. I suppose the wink is there to imply a light hearted response (rather than sarcastic), but it defeats me why you have to interpret so many of my posts as in some way critical.
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i did look, i saw, i posted
....if your findings are so different to mine, why not post them so that we can all see....its not difficult is it?
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Well worth considering Costa Rica, AD. We've been to both Cuba and CR and loved them differently. Having traveled to the East and West, Costa Rica mind is 'our' most enjoyed destination of all. Let's hope travel will resume in the coming years sufficiently to engage once more in our travels. Having said that, lets Oslo have our motorhome holidays in Britain will happen more quickly. If you want more info. ask away!
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So the OP was about the evolution of our pastime as a result of the challenges we face. May be payment prior to arrival will negate the need to enter the office and handle money. This need only be on the day of arrival and not necessarily be connected with a deposit. I guess we will all need to work together to ensure smooth and safe enjoyment of site stays. Not beyond the considerate vast majority I think.
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Online cashless payment, without talking to people, that will never catch on. Well not within the bounds of the club sites, this century.
I cant believe an organisation of this size still allows people to collect money.
How about using the currently useless membership card to swipe in at the gate. This can then send a message to your smart phone indicating the free pitches. you input the number of nights and party detail via SMS and away you go, its like magic.
You are then automatically billed via your club account.
Most organisations already work this way. It allows them to monetize their services and thus offer an efficient cost effective service.
Its not the future, its the now.
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How about using the currently useless membership card to swipe in at the gate. This can then send a message to your smart phone indicating the free pitches. you input the number of nights and party detail via SMS and away you go, its like magic.
You are then automatically billed via your club account.
Most organisations already work this way. It allows them to monetize their services and thus offer an efficient cost effective service.
Most! Really! This thread is looking at campsites. The only one we have come across that comes partway close to what you describe above is Camping Car Park in France. In this country it is the norm to book and generally pay a deposit in advance. I can't see that aspect changing much.
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Last time I looked at Camping Car Park terms you could also advance book space on their sites. I don't know how it works because I have never done it but it is not an impossible thing to do. The Club could go cashless with a combination of "Anytime Booking" and number plate recognition. The concept of no deposit need not be dispensed with, cash could simply be taken from an account when you actually check in.
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You buy the privilege PD. I think it costs 25 euros a year. Then the barrier reserves you a non specific space. I assume it would stop non booked units entering once the limit of non booked spaces was reached.
However, I was referring to the assertion that most organisations operated this way, rather than the principle. Although I do think it dead in the water in the UK. Using your membership card for gate access and possibly paying, is about as far as I can see it going. The French model isn't going to work here.
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Not really, you could pay from your vehicle using your phone when you pull onto the arrivals area. And of course you can always phone ahead to check availability, Then phone reception with pitch number and any paperwork, goods like gas from the shop etc could be delivered to a safe distance on your pitch. No need for direct contact at all. This could be implemented immediately at no cost, with no new systems needed once travel restrictions are lifted. Just a stop gap mind until things improve. If you really felt the need you could do it on a daily basis.
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David, we are not discussing this point! I'm a great advocate of no minimum nights booking restrictions and tip up and stay when availability allows. We are however looking at changes in practices which could/might be made in light of the challenges we face.
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(unfortunately/fortunately, depending on viewpoint) booking (and paying) in advance is the UK way....
a shortage of pitches in high season generally means no booking, no site stay.
CC has a good booking system and this will have to continue to ensure a match between supply and demand....of course, supply (closing some of the pitches) can be fairly easily be altered by site.
if its the contact at check in that needs tweaking there have been plenty of sensible adjustments already in this thread.
if the option to pay before arrival is introduced thats a good portion of the 'office visit' removed....do we really need telling about 'pitching to the peg'?
other than that, the warden can check the reg no, check that you've paid, open the barrier and you're away..
id say using cards to open barriers or pay is two steps too far for the club.
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Agree. It isn’t required. We toured last year and used three Club Sites on spec, no advanced booking. If it’s a couple, non driver simply phones site when 10 minutes away, gives Membership number and registration, then pay by card remotely. Warden opens barrier, in you go, pick a pitch, set up, collect barrier card at later convenience.
Bit more difficult for singles, but not that much. Will require phone/POS to be staffed, but that’s just tweaking task allocation, and if the facility blocks ain’t open, is perfectly doable.
Don’t over think things. A simple phone call, prior to departure from wherever, or enroute is all that is required. A supply of envelopes and barrier cards, receipts, information can be simply handed to arrivals or pinned outside office door with a name on, if they can be watched. Cards and info into prepared envelopes, simply add receipt, name on front and seal. But don’t use the licky type envelopes😉
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