Use of motorhome for self isolation

mickysf
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edited April 2020 in Caravan & Motorhome Chat #1

Was thinking the other day that if anyone in our household has to self isolate we could use the motorhome. Now here's the issue,  could I use a Calor gas bottle attached to the exterior 'outlet' as the onboard tank is nearly empty. The bottle would have its own regulator. In these difficult times I don't feel comfortable driving the van some considerable distance in an attempt to finding one of those ever deminishing number of garages which sell. pumped LPG. Any thoughts?

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  • ABM
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    edited April 2020 #2

    Can you not

    a ) check on line for the nearest fueling points which have LPG pumps then

    b ) phone em to check if they are open & capable ??

  • mickysf
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    edited April 2020 #3

    I could, but all those close at hand have now ceased selling LPG. Not that keen on driving a motorhome, a leisure vehicle, some 80 mile on a round trip to the nearest one I know that was selling it some 6 months ago. I have a full Calor bottle at hand!

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2020 #4

    I would consider the trip to obtain LPG for a fixed tank ,as essential ,your motor caravan could well be your only abodesurprised

    Is it Boston that have the supply?

  • cyberyacht
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    edited April 2020 #5
  • mickysf
    mickysf Forum Participant Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭
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    edited April 2020 #6

    Forgive me but I'm just not comfortable driving my motorhome round at the moment. Friends have been stopped driving a car not registered in the local area and questioned although they had a totally justifiable answer for the police. I'm sure seeing a car towing a caravan around at the moment would raise eyebrows too and some of them have fixed tanks. Anyway, back to the question, any thoughts about that?

    Thanks CY though, just that that database has let me down on a couple of occasions. It never seems to be up to date enough as more and more outlets seem to be withdrawing this service.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited April 2020 #7

    First of all I would ask if it was necessary to have gas available? Could not meals be cooked in the house and a minimum contact arrangement be set up. After all it would be the same if someone was self isolating in the house.

    If you felt it really necessary to fill the gas tank couldn't you ring the police and ask them whether they would find it an acceptable journey? I don't think there are any rules about taking your motorhome to a supermarket to buy shopping so why not to a garage to refill with gas?

    David

  • JollyKernow
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    edited April 2020 #8

    Isolate the onboard tank if possible then connect gas bottle to bbq point, job done.smile

  • mickysf
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    edited April 2020 #9

    Thanks JK promise I won't do it on site when this is all over! As long as the regulator is fitted to bottle I could see no reason not to do this but best to ask from 'them' that might know better. Isolating the tank is good advice and so easy to do. 

  • young thomas
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    edited April 2020 #10

    Mickey, sorry id ive misunderstood your 'situation' but if 'anyone in the household' has to self isolate (presumably symptoms?) surely doesnt everyone who has been living together in that household have to isolate for 14 days?

    you cant 'run away from' someone you've been living with who develops symptoms, can you?undecided

  • brue
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    edited April 2020 #11

    Couldn't you go electric? Our M/H is plugged in just now as we are using extra fridge capacity to store food and milk, if needed we could cook on a gas camping stove/use the electric ring on the cooker and the microwave.

  • young thomas
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    edited April 2020 #12

    not sure what van Mickey has but i have a feeling its 'foreign' in which case, like ours, it doesnt have a hotplate.

    our three 'rings' are gas as is the oven.

    some Conti vans only have gas powered Trumas for heating/hot water supply.

  • brue
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    edited April 2020 #13

    Just thought I'd ask BB as quite a few people are having to use vans on driveways etc if they are key workers..."so near to home but so far" and need to be isolated after work.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited April 2020 #14

    I think the advice is that is someone in the household has more serious symptoms they should isolate themselves within the household, ie separate room, towels, toilet if possible. Using a caravan/motorhome might make that situation easier?

    David

  • Metheven
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    edited April 2020 #15

    Not interested in that advice, no way would I abandon my wife with serious symptoms. I would share those symptoms rather than leave her to it, and hope together for a good outcome.

    The idea is quite distasteful in my mind.

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  • Rocky 2 buckets
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    edited April 2020 #17

    +1👍🏻

  • SteveL
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    edited April 2020 #18

    Surely it would be sensible to isolate yourself to some extent, in order to delay your onset of symptoms. It would be much easier to look after someone if you are still fit and well. Although I take AD's point re it might already be too late.

  • Metheven
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    edited April 2020 #19

    What! and bung her in the motorhome. I would want to keep an eye on her constantly rather than alienate her, that's social distancing to the extreme.

    Completely different to same house with separate bedrooms along with common sense.

  • lornalou1
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    edited April 2020 #20

    If they had to go to hospital you wouldn't have any choice. 

  • Metheven
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    edited April 2020 #21

    Until then I would be happy in myself that I did all I could rather than abandon her in a motorhome on the drive.

    Humanity eh! when the going gets tough, look after number one.frown

  • brue
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    edited April 2020 #22

    Perhaps Micky could explain things a bit more?

  • Justus2
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    edited April 2020 #23

    If you have an nearly empty underfloor gas tank and want to use a calor bottle instead, you can use one of these : 

    https://www.gasit.co.uk/gas-it-reserved-gas-supply-hose-system-pol.html

    It connects to your normal tank input but screws in rather than the bayonet attachment you use at an LPG station. Gas then flows from the calor bottle via your van's regulator and existing system. As I understand it, no liquid enters the tank, its just gas passing through the tank. I'm considering buying one myself, it seems a handy thing to have just in case.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited April 2020 #24

    I don't see how it is distasteful it is just another option which is obviously one that your would not be happy taking up. The majority of people in that situation will do their best to isolate within their own home but there may be circumstances where a greater degree of separation might be advised. Didn't someone post on here that whilst he was recovering from some other illness/operation (?) they were going to use their caravan on the drive as a means of isolation just to be on the safe side?  I don't think anyone is suggesting loved ones are abandoned. 

  • mickysf
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    edited April 2020 #25

    Will try. Both of us are what you could say rather mature in age but Mrs SF has been advised that she is in a vulnerable category. All I was doing was looking at all possibilities and permutations in order to keep her as safe as possible. After all, I could be the threat to her. I would do anything to eliminate my possibly causing her harm even if that meant one of us sleeping and living slightly apart for a while. After all, the van is on 'our'  property and we could see each other, cook for each other, talk to each other and comfort each other albeit this from only a closish proximity but would be of course be non physical contact and maintaining the recommend distancing. As I said, I'm only weighing up situations and looking to make possible solutions, if sadly needed, as easy as possible. Surely it is wise to think ahead in these difficult times.

  • young thomas
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    edited April 2020 #26

    ....but, 'to protect her', wouldn't you have to take those steps now, looking after her needs, remaining 'handy' but minimising risk to each other by distancing yourself? 

    otherwise, what would be the 'signal' for moving to the van?

    waiting until she (or you) gets unwell will surely mean you'll both get it irrespective of one of you nipping off to the van after discovery?

    isnt this exactly why families living together have to isolate together (unless the symptoms become serious) until the danger passes (14 days)?

    agreed vulnerable people need 'sheilding' but moving to the van after you or your OH becomes ill seems far too late to me?  

    again, apologies if ive misunderstood your above post, but as mentioned earlier 'stable door' comes to mind.

  • mickysf
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    edited April 2020 #27

    I do not know BB but I'll take my direction from the scientists! So many suggestions, so many explanations,  some contradictory. Who knows what's best? Do we both go shopping, do we both go to the doctors? There are many families living as described because of specific circumstances. 

  • brue
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    edited April 2020 #28

    Thanks Micky, I presume your OH is not in the "shielding" category so you have to use your own judgement about shopping etc. presumably you've got enough room in your home to keep apart as best you can if needed, so I hope the motorhome won't play a part. My OH was sitting in ours the other day watching TV with the dog! I don't think we'd use ours if one of us became ill, people who are poorly need help at hand, no good if your other half is outside and out of earshot?! smile

    Stay safe and well.

  • JollyKernow
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    edited April 2020 #29

    Anyway Micky, Connecting a gas bottle to your bbq point will work ok. Hundreds of folk who winter in Spain (back then) do it ok. Future reference maybe?

    Stay safe

    JK

  • MichaelT
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    edited April 2020 #30

    I think you need one of THESE, will fit any standard LPG filling point, just attach the calor bottle.

  • mickysf
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    edited April 2020 #31

    We have walkietalkies too, used them when traveling in convoy. Later couldn't understood how these were okay but a mobile isn't so gave up on them.

    Thanks folk, that adaptor mentioned by a couple of you looks interesting but not essential I think.