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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited April 2020 #32

    Ours is a Panasonic SD 251. We have had it around 20 years, so it’s an old model, but very reliable. Simple to use, simple to clean. You just need to follow instructions you get on how to do various things. Ours will do a loaf cake as well, but we aren’t fans. Some will even make jam.

    The main thing with them is to understand that using bread mixes (such as Wright’s) is a bit different to using all separate ingredients. Mixes usually have to be started immediately as soon as the water is added, as the yeast is activated immediately. Using ingredients, you can keep the yeast, and the water/milk separate, so you can use the timer function. Either way, the results are usually yummy. 

    I think Panasonic’s were very popular, certainly when we bought ours, and I can highly recommend. We didn’t eat shop bought bread for over 18 months when we first got ours, even took it away on tour in caravan!

    😁

  • brue
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    edited April 2020 #33

    I've got an old Prima, I tend to stick with simple loaves and it's been reliable over the years I think I'd go for a Panasonic if choosing now, especially one with a timer for overnight baking. They're expensive but I think there are good budget ones around. Look on somewhere like Ideal Home for best bread maker buys.

  • KjellNN
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    edited April 2020 #34

    We bought a new Panasonic a few months back as it was reduced in a sale, plus we got a further discount.  We have had our old Panasonic for so long we cannot remember how long, and since we got it we have not bought an ordinary loaf.  It has travelled Europe with us for years now in our van, would not be without it.

    However last year it seemed to be starting to falter when we were away at Easter, we later reckoned it was low voltage on the campsite.  This did start us thinking about looking out for a good deal on a fancier model.

    Many years back we bought a breadmaker from Makro, some other Japanese make I think, but were not impressed with the results, so put it in the back of a cupboard.  Later, DD asked if she could mix pizza dough in it, so she eventually inherited it.  

    We bought the original Panasonic on the recommendation of a good friend and have found it excellent, the recipes were quite different from those for the first machine, so we often wondered whether the Panasonic recipes would be OK in the first machine.

    Having taken DD some bread while we were working down there, she said they had decided to try making bread in the original machine, could she have our recipes?  After a couple of loaves, SIL was hooked on the home made bread, but we thought it was not quite as good as the Panasonic results, so when we spotted the fancy model at such a good price, we went for it and then passed the old Panasonic on to them.

    The results in it are not quite as good as in the new model, but they are happy with it, and it is in use 2 or 3 times a week.  The poor old original one is back on a shelf in "reserve" status again, just in case.

  • Goldie146
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    edited April 2020 #35

    Was this Fruugo? Someone (maybe you?) mentioned them on here and I ordered some Bread Mixes on 20th March - and today I've had the email to say they will be here between 14th and 17th.

    I was beginning to worry as the money had come off my card.

    If all else fails we can live on bread and milk. 

    (With the odd glass of Gin of course).

  • Freddy55
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    edited April 2020 #36

    I can’t speak highly enough for the Panasonic, always gives good results. The other ones we had were only good(ish) with bread mixes. When using ingredients (to recipes) they were very disappointing. Another gripe was the so-called non-stick paddles. We were nearly always left with a big hole in the bottom of the loaf, which only got worse as time went on. No such problems with the Panasonic.

    Anyway, I remember eating a sandwich from a platter (at work) made with chilli bread, it was delicious. I wouldn’t think that it’s just a case of bunging in some chilli powder/flakes. Does anyone have a recipe for this?

     

  • Goldie146
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    edited April 2020 #37

    Another recommendation for Panasonic. The spares department is also good (we needed a new paddle and the bit that turns it).

    Back in the day when the children were little I baked all our bread by hand (I was heavily into self sufficiency). But we had electric cooker then that I could control. I wouldn't trust the ancient Aga we have now (inherited along with the farm). And I love the fact it can be done overnight.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited April 2020 #38

    Yes it is Fruugo, it was me. They pass on your order to stockist, and then you wait to hear from stockist. Like you I was getting a tad concerned, as I ordered ages ago, but had no response. But I phoned Thomas Ridley (suppliers) yesterday, and they confirmed Wrights stuff had come from manufacturers, so it would be all systems go.

    Bit of a wait, but hopefully worth it now👍

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2020 #39

    "Anyway, I remember eating a sandwich from a platter (at work) made with chilli bread, it was delicious. I wouldn’t think that it’s just a case of bunging in some chilli powder/flakes. Does anyone have a recipe for this?"

    Freddy, I do have a recipe hidden away somewhere - I made a loaf using scotch bonnet peppers years ago - not my cleverest move though! I'll try to dig the recipe out. smile

  • DSB
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    edited April 2020 #40

    This thread is making me feel hungry.....  I could just eat a Philps Pasty......

    David

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited April 2020 #41

    You had chips with one!!!!!😯 

    Back when I was caring for my Dad, OH used to set off on his own, and I would commute to various locations via trains to meet up with him. He would often send my photos of his meal for that day. Usually around the size of that Pasty😁 But he did cycle a lot in between

    My perfect day at the moment would be off to Porth Kidney beach for a swim and breakfast, laze around beachcombing and sunbathing and more swimming. Then back to car, into Hayle for a Philps Cheese and Onion, stroll down King George VI gardens and round Copperhouse pool, then a whacking triple tub ice cream from Mr B’s.........................

    Fingers crossed for September, but I think it’s a pipe dream at the moment😢

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2020 #42

    Freddy - if you're still looking in, I dug out the recipe I used for Chilli Bread - probably better not to use Scotch Bonnets unless you've got a strong constitution though!  wink

    Ingredients

    1 tbsp olive oil

    3 fresh chillies chopped or 3 generous tsp chilli flakes

    320 ml water

    500 g white bread flour

    2 tsp salt

    2 tsp sugar

    25 g softened butter

    1 tsp dried yeast.

    To make - if using fresh chillies, chop them and fry in the oil  for a few minutes until softened then allow them to cool. 

    Pour oil and chillies into the bread pan with the water.  Sprinkle over the flour and add sugar, salt and butter in separate corners. Add the yeast in the centre of the flour.

    Set bread maker on normal setting and away you go. When baked turn the loaf out and allow to cool.

    Good luck! smile

  • Freddy55
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    edited April 2020 #43

    Thanks, I’ll give it a go 👍 I know about scotch bonnets. I’ve still got some in the freezer that I grew the year before last. To be honest, I’m afraid of them. I made up a jerk sauce, using them, and burnt the back of my hands from handling them. Mind, quite nice once bbq’d 🙂

  • Freddy55
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    edited April 2020 #44

    Moulsey, I’m going to try that recipe in the next couple of days. Just a query. Are you sure it’s 3 spoons of chilli flakes as it sounds rather a lot? Maybe you meant powder?

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2020 #45

    I used fresh  chillies but the recipe does say 3 tsp chilli flakes for a medium loaf.

    I made a raisin and rosemary loaf this morning. Well it turned out to be a rosemary loaf actually because, despite the instructions saying to put the raisins ìn after the mixing, they just all sank to the bottom - so a rosemary loaf with a thick base layer of raisins!  frown

     

  • Freddy55
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    edited April 2020 #46

    Aye up. Yes, made the loaf, but couldn’t bring myself to put in 3 tsp of flakes, so went with 1tsp, just to be safe 🙄 I was really surprised that there was only a hint of chilli, as half a teaspoon in ordinary dishes is more than enough. I know, I should have had more faith 🙂 Anyway, it’s 3 next time👍

    Oh yes, I’ll probably use less water next time, to give it more of a ‘sandwich’ consistency.

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2020 #47

    Just taken another of my favourite carrot & fennel seed loafs out of the machine - should be just right for lunch later on. smile

    I managed to get two bags of bread flour from one of the little Sainsburys Local stores the other day, so all set for some more experimenting now. wink

  • Freddy55
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    edited April 2020 #48

    I like to use their (Sainsburys) ‘Whole Grain Seeded Bread Flour’, makes a great tasting/texture loaf.

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2020 #49

    I tried something a bit different yesterday - garlic and herb walnut bread. Absolutely delicious and the smell was just wonderful!  smile

  • brue
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    edited May 2020 #50

    Well that's it, I couldn't look at the giant bags of flour that took such a long time to arrive for any longer and the yeast has arrived too, so the breadmaker got dragged out this morning. Now I've got to remember the routine. I will be looking in at the ideas on here once I get the hang of it again. laughing

  • moulesy
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    edited May 2020 #51

    I've just found a breadmaker recipe for cheese and onion bread which I'm going to try tomorrow. I've found a pretty reliable source of bread flour is the little Sainsburys Local I drive past each day. smile

  • brue
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    edited May 2020 #52

    Morrisons are offering flour from their bakery department, I think you have to ask them.

  • brue
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    edited May 2020 #53

    Trouble at t'mill. Overnight bread came out like a brick...frown A paddle got stuck. Timing perfect, bread awful. Are all your bread machines fail safe? I'm wondering if mine has seen better days?

  • Goldie146
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    edited May 2020 #54

    The only thing that's not fail safe is me. Occasionally (very occasionally) I forget to put yeast in (my current machine has a little container in the lid that dispenses the yeast at the right time) - and we get a solid brick. The only use is to use it as a log in the stove.

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited May 2020 #55

    Brue 

    We had a couple of instances of the paddle getting stuck in the bread recently although rest of bread OK. According to the instructions - which of course are only looked at in such circumstances, there was a requirement to add more water to the mix. This seems to have worked.

    What we can never seem to achieve is a firm top crust. It comes out of the breadmaker looking wonderful but as it cools it tends to collapse a bit. Not really a problem as we mainly use our home made bread for toast.

    David

  • KjellNN
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    edited May 2020 #56

    Lidl stores now have strong white back in stock, plenty on the shelves in  the 2 nearest to us.

  • KjellNN
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    edited May 2020 #57

    Like Goldie, our new one has a separate yeast dispenser to remember, which I have done so far.   Once forgot to put the paddle In place in our previous one, that did not end well!

    Otherwise both have been faultless, both Panasonics, highly recommended.  The sourdough loaf from the new machine is particularly good.

  • brue
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    edited May 2020 #58

    I think, after close inspection that the non stick coating is very worn around the paddles. I don't worry about them sticking in the bread occasionally but when they stick to the machine and don't rotate (even if I've checked them at the start) it's not too good. I had a read up about this last night and this happens to other people's machines. I can't get replacement pans so reader I bought a new machine. 

    A MorphyRichards one on offer as it will suit my needs, not too big either. Many places have sold out of machines. Will let you know what I think later.

    My old machine did well, twenty years old!

    Thanks for all your comments. smile

  • robinofstackpole
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    edited May 2020 #59

    Hi, Does anyone else make bread without a bread machine? I've been baking our bread for many years now as the OH reacts to shop bread, bloating etc. I must admit I use a Kenwood mixer to do the heavy work as I get some rsi in my hands from years at the CAD workstation.

    I use a sponge method for most of my bread and usually make 2 loaves at a time. 

    Basic sponge, overnight

    500g strong white flour

    500g / ml warm water

    1/2tsp dried yeast

    Sprinkle the yeast into the water and let it dissolve then mix it into the flour, it will be quite wet and gloopy. Cover the bowl with clingfilm and leave overnight. 

    Next day add 500g flour into mixer bowl add the sponge. Dissolve 2 tsp salt in 50g /ml hot water and add to mix. 

    Start the mixer using a dough hook at low speed, gradually add 100g/ml hot water. When the mix has all come together, increase the speed one setting to knead the dough for 5 to 6 minutes. 

    Remove from the mixer, place in a bowl and cover in clingfilm and leave for an hour. 

    Remove from the bowl and knock back (knead to remove large air bubbles. Divide into 2 and either shape into balls, stretching the outside to hold the shape and place on a baking tray, or place in 2lb bread tins. Cover or place in clear plastic bag and leave for 1 to 1.5 hours. 

    Bake in a preheated 200°c fan oven for 35 mins

    To vary the recipe, add seeds when doing second mix or use a mixture of flours for the sponge. I sometimes use 300g rye with 200g white, or 500g wholemeal. 

    I have some recipes for focaccia if anyone wants. 

    Robin

     

  • brue
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    edited May 2020 #60

    Many thanks for the recipe Robin. I use a Kenwood for all the baking I do, my hands and wrists don't work as well as they used to so a machine of any type has been a godsend. I was glad to read how it's done with the Kenwood. smile

  • brue
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    edited May 2020 #61

    Well not a good start the new bread maker has got to go back. frown Back to the old one for now.