Fair consideration to members

Spark18A
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edited April 2020 in Caravan & Motorhome Chat #1

As a relatively new member. Given I joined to gain access to the members only sites (and discounts on the rest),I  would, therefore, court credence in the club considering a partial fee reduction or an extension to the current membership duration due to the current situation. I didn't join for the magazines or the other perceived 'fringe' benefits, solely for access to the sites. I absolutely condone all the sites shutting (maybe should have been earlier?).

As of last week, I am currently without income, as such, I may not be in a position to renew the subs later in the year..? 

Will the club committee consider a timely and considered gesture to members?

Stay safe indoors folks.........

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  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2020 #2

    😤😤😤😤😤😤😤

    Who should pay the ongoing maintenance costs? Any rebate now will surely reflect in increased site fees in future years. 

    https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/club-together/discussions/club-talk/club-membership/covid-19-and-membership/

    https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/club-together/discussions/welcome-hobby-talk/caravan-motorhome-chat/membership-subscription-refund/

     

     

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2020 #3

    Is this the only club you pay membership fees to? How far will £13 .50 as that is what in could be,   less magazine cost ,if as hoped , the sites can reopen in july, staff are still on sites to keep them "warm"for a fast reopen when possiblecool

  • Oneputt
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    edited April 2020 #4

    Sorry you are in the predicament you find yourself


    Perhaps writing to the club would be good first step.  None of us here can answer you questions we can only give our opinions

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2020 #5

    I’m surprised you started another thread, Sparky, when you have already read 'Membership Subscription Refund' and seen that it has been locked because it is a duplication of others.

    However, good luck for the future.

  • huskydog
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    edited April 2020 #6

    There’s no harm in asking cool

  • hitchglitch
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    edited April 2020 #7

    My golf club is giving a rebate for the time that they are closed. My wife’s health club are suspending membership.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited April 2020 #8

    What are theses maintenance costs? No bins to empty, no services required, no fuel in the blasted leaf blowers .... and I'm sure that many wardens will have been 'furloughed' (newly invented word)

  • marchie1053
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    edited April 2020 #9

    Not a newly invented word; 'furloughed' is another odious Americanism, like 'Called out', instead of 'challenged' and 'reached out' instead of 'contacted'... and 'negative patient output' [printed in the Financial Times around 1979] instead of 'deceased patient'.

    Steve

  • moulesy
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    edited April 2020 #10

    Do wardens qualify for the furlough system?  undecided

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2020 #11

    Not site specific but you of all people, MM, will understand that assets such as buildings need maintenance all year round whether in use or not.

    It is year round income that foots the bill and that will be lacking this year.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited April 2020 #12

    It's a word that I'd not heard of until last week. 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited April 2020 #13

    I agree re the income, but that's different from site maintenance 🙄

  • Simon100
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    edited April 2020 #14

    Caravan club staff are also still working to assist others who are in difficulties trying to return to the UK etc. If we all get a refund who would pay them?

    Do you expect a refund during the months when you don't use a site, such as December or January? 

    Your subscription  is for 12 months regardless of how often you use sites.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2020 #15

    There are winter wardens on some sites when the sites are shut. 

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2020 #16

    And how do you know that ?

    wardens are still working ,and keeping sites secure from all the low lifes

    It is spring why leaf blowers

    ,grass still needs cutting it is the growing season,

    hedges will need keeping tidy

    weeds to keep clear

    flowers to maintain as they will be growing in baskets etc as planted before shut down

    boilers still going to keep facilities "warm"

     and not all sites are empty of members

    windows to clean and cobwebs at bay,

    weeds to keep under control

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited April 2020 #17

    I said "Who should pay the ongoing maintenance costs?". You assumed  more than I said.

  • peedee
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    edited April 2020 #18

    (newly invented word)

    No  it isn't and niether is it an odious American  ism. The first 25 years of my working life with a British Company I was regularly placed on furlough, sometimes for as long as 4 months, until the next job came along. However I was paid a basic salary while on furlough.

    peedee

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2020 #19

    What other services do you also get for the fees you pay to elsewhere?

  • EmilysDad
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    edited April 2020 #20

    Do you have Caravan Club written though you like a stick of Blackpool rock? 😏 There's not much going on at Burrs. There were no leaves at the very beginning of last year cos there were gale force winds .... but the leaf blower was definitely in use ALL day! Who's there to see grass & hedges that need cutting other than a small handful? And are facilities open to need heating? I don't know, but I doubt it.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited April 2020 #21

    I'm sure the grass & hedges at the gold club are still being cut despite suspension of fees .... 🙄

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2020 #22

    With members on site, Full timers? then they have the Facilities open , as they are still paying the going rate,,and they still have to been cleaned to a standard rather than the times on the doors 

    And having been a member for over 50 years ,and having friends,(several) that have been or still are  site staff  and,have seen the other side of running sites ,that some members,,  still think ,is an easy job to carry out ,whether the site has few or is full of members

  • Oneputt
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    edited April 2020 #23

    Costs of leases maybe

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2020 #24

    And why not ,but what about the many other parts of the cc that is available to members, if wanted    ,not sure what else a golf club has apart from the 19th hole 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited April 2020 #25

    how hard can it be when there are half a doz outfits on site & only one toilet block open? 😏

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2020 #26

    Clutching at straws now wink do not know the site   was on our now (vitual)tour that started tomorow, if they have grass pitches and still wet i would think only one toilet block would be open now

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2020 #27

    I would hope that the wardens clean the toilets to the same standard no matter how many outfits are on site? One outfit or full should make no difference to how well they are cleaned, or are standards in proportion to the number on site? 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited April 2020 #28

    sounds like maintenance still going on? Unless that is being done free it will cost, even if done free and unless the lawnmowers are pushed by hand there will be fuel costs?

  • JVB66
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    edited April 2020 #29

    The standards are before the staff get to work on them if site full, but i expect the cleaning at this time is more difficult, as all surfaces will need to be done more than once a day frown

  • huskydog
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    edited April 2020 #30

    This caravan club standard of cleaning ! , is there a special course that wardens have to do?, do they fold the end of the toilet paper in to a point and polish the flush chain , 

  • EmilysDad
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    edited April 2020 #31

    I never suggested they weren't, but common sense says it's far easier to clean up after a dozen people than a site full of them ....