Stuck in Spain
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welcome home, JK.....
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JK
Good to see you made it back alright.
The weather here as been pretty rank since you left it as rained everyday from Sunday think we've had all the April showers at once in March. Good to see the camc are looking after its people for the time being and the 14 days will soon be over. House arrest as now been increased here for another 15 days taking us to April 13th but judging by the figures today it will last a lot longer.
Stay safe and Hasta pronto
Phil
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Morning
Cheers mate, it was heavy rain when we left Aguilas on Sunday morning but was clear by the time we got to Teruel.
The club have been ok so far, Biggest pain at the minute is we're not allowed to used the facilities here as they've had a company in to deep clean. Oh well we'll manage.
JK
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Morning
So, we are abiding by our companies wishes and came straight here from the tunnel and will not go out until the 14 days are up. By all accounts I wouldn't want to judging by what I've heard of the constant scrum in the shops. We've been in total lockdown in Spain the last 2 weeks which is rigidly enforced. Large supermarkets with security on the door and only 5 people allowed in at a time. No panic buying or stock piling, enough for all. I'm worried that the UK still hasn't properly grasped the situation.
Anyway, thanks everyone for the welcome.
Got to learn how stories thing works I think I'll have a go talking about our last 3 weeks and this plague among us.
JK
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Cheers Lutz,
I hope you do get there this summer, we miss it already! We hope to make it home later this year
JK
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Glad you got back safely. I am about to leave Palomares heading back as we've finally been kicked out.
Any of you guys know of any sites to stay on onve I'm back in uk? With facilities?
Knowing that CAMC network is closed and CL's not taking anyone either?
My problem (and i know I'm not on my own) is no permanent home in UK (sold up last year to go touring in 'van) so where do i go?
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Don't think you will find any with facilities but it appears fulltimers are being allowed to stay on sites using their own facilities.
Check >this thread< out. Suggest you phone the Club to discuss.
peedee
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Morning
The club sites that have outfits still on (fulltimers) at present won't be accepting any more I'm afraid. The gates are and will stay locked.
I think I mentioned previously on another thread to make sure you have a ticket to get into the UK? When you do get the other side the police are waiting in force with many questions, one being your destination. I think you need to get a plan together or you may find yourself detained, not sure. I will speak to my regional manager about this as I guess you're not alone but I don't feel positive as the club have a duty of care to it's staff at this time.
JK
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Hi again
Just had a thought, if you look on facebook there are a few motorhome groups with people offering places to park on driveways, land etc. motorhome madness springs to mind?
JK
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I have found in my junk mail folder an email from the sites admin at East Grinstead adviseing that there is no access,to the site or storage while the "lockdown" is in operation ,but is it the clubs lockdown or the one Boris ordered on Monday which is for three weeks?
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Not sure JV, but I'm guessing that visiting a van in storage in Boris's lockdown would be non essential travel? Who knows after that or what the club will do. Personally if I was working on site and someone wanted to play with their van during this crisis I wouldn't be happy as it's completely unnecessary. (My opinion)
JK
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Have been on to EGH (all working from home?) and they do not really understand the situation ,but insist it is only key workers and emergency personnel who are on sites, if any, at this time, the RM cannot be contacted?(answerphone? )to clarify ,but she has now got hopefully our contact number
We need to get some food out of our caravan ,that is getting to sell by date ,which would not have been a problem, as normally we would have been on a site somewhere
The storage site we use does not normally need any contact with site staff for access as it is all via smart card and two sets of barriers
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There is some confusion on the national lockdown and 'non essential travel'. Derbyshire Police have been using Drones and ANPR System to 'Shame' people who have driven for 30 minutes to Peak District to exercise and/or walk dogs, saying that nobody needs to travel to do this, so it is non essential travel.
The Guardian contacted the Cabinet Office who confirmed that it is perfectly permissible to travel for the aforementioned purposes ...
If you get stopped by the Police and question this, there is a £30 ticket with your name on, rising to £60 if not paid within 7 days, and then Court. £120 fine for repeat offenders.
If we question the Police instruction to go home, are we 'resisting', and therefore allowing the Police to use 'reasonable force' to remove us? Do we point out the Cabinet Office clarification and respectfully ask the Officer to seek clarification? Do we note his/her badge number and then instruct solicitors and report to the Guardian et al?
Or, do we just put it down to Government and Police confusing rear ends and elbows and concede gracefully? Answers on a postcard ...
We are only 100 metres from the beach so can usually walk around the promenade. However, 3 dog walkers [unrelated], have been standing across the promenade, less than 2 metres apart, with dogs, leads etc forming a barrier, blethering away regardless, and blocking the way for anyone who wishes to pass ... A polite request to allow passage failed, as did a rather more direct question about 2 copulating metres, so now we walk along the street and rejoin the promenade beyond Prats' Path ...
These people are too stupid to know how to catch Coronavirus, so, sadly, they will continue to occupy the planet.
Steve
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JVB,
Those people may well be in for a nasty shock if the local police do undertake any 'Social Distancing' enforcement. Having checked the Regulations after my earlier post, I see that the Fines in Scotland start at £60 [1/2 rebate to £30 if paid within 28 days], but then double for each and every repeat offence, up to a maximum of £960 and no reduction for prompt payment!
Whilst we have been walking, the majority of people [many of them young people who must have had the message driven home whilst at school] will willingly move out of range as soon as they see you, so a swerve at 30 or 50 metres and a smile as we pass is very common. Those who ignore the regs tend to be in the older age group, including, bizzarely, the retired Minister of the Church who is still visiting the homes of his former parishioners, proclaiming that 'they can arrest me if they want to ...'
It's a strange old world at present
Steve
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I find it incomprehensible that people are not complying with the guidance/rule that you should go out of your house only for essential trips as detailed by HMG. What part of that is difficult to understand? My heart goes out to those who live in tower blocks with no balconies, it must be very hard for them.
Steve, shame on the vicar, but down here the oldies are being well behaved.
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There is a British owned site in Normandy, where the owner is staying open and has offered a 'Refuge' for those people heading back to the UK. I don't know whether he would consider a longer stay but it may be worth contacting him and explaining your position. His name is Peter, and the site name is Forest View, in Normandy. You may be able to stay there long enough to have time to ring places in the UK, and arrange somewhere to stay. It's going to be difficult but if you have friends or family with a large garden, or a long drive, that might be the best way.
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I worked in Worthing in early 1990s, and remember having a 'all the world is against me' moan to an Accountant after my Boss had 'shared some thoughts with me' about my failure to meet new business targets.
The rather urbane Accountant said,'My dear boy, it's very hard to increase business when most of one's customers are biodegradable ...'
That sage advice cheered up an otherwise gloomy day, so not all bad
Archie, the retired Minister, cannot stop himself and his even older parishioners do value his visits. He conducted a service, including a couple of hymns, last Sunday for our 99 years old upstairs neighbour. seemingly oblivious of the potential harm [and not just from his awful singing voice. Worse than mine, and that's saying something].
Archie could achieve notoriety as the Church's 'answer' to Harold Shipman, albeit in a caring and compassionate way...
Steve
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Whilst not wishing to sound callous, at 99 and numerous others well into their 70's and 80's, how long do we expect to last anyway? We could hardly complain that we were snatched away in our prime.
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Fair point, cyberyacht.
But, unless you're the Government Actuary with 1 eye on the State Pension Budget, I suspect that most of us would prefer to just slip away gently, rather than, figuratively, being given the heave ho out of the nearest window ...
Steve
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Perhaps the Almighty could set up a Celestial Call Centre that could make nuisance calls on Sunday mornings to those of us who are past our prime ...
'Good morning, Mr X. My name is Christian, and I'm calling on behalf of the Almighty.Can you confirm your postcode and first line of address? Thank you.And your date of birth? 1921? The Almighty is just wondering why you haven't left yet? ... Hello, are you still there...Hello?'
Steve
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Poorly constructed sentence there. I've another quarter of a century before I qualify for a telegram from Buck House. I'm not quite the Dorian Grey you imagine.
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actually you're more Connor MacLeod to me
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