Coronavirus: Stay or go

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  • JVB66
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    edited March 2020 #902

    The "order" includes campsites ,but not if they accommodate "key workers"?

  • CooperN
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    edited March 2020 #903

    I agree, The logistics for some are complex and a degree of common sense is called for. So absolutely limit your time outdoors and away from home, even it this means you break the restrictions slightly to achieve this in respect of caring for your daughters pet. 
    I’m talking about businesses that don’t quite fall into the list that has been outlined as essential for remaining open. My neighbour for example is an estate agent, she’s gone into work today and reckons that’s essential? 
    These grey areas wont last for long though, should the cases rise and we start seeing in excess of 100 deaths a day, I guarantee a full curfew will be enforced and the public will have to stay within a set distance from their house and only be outdoors for a limited time. Currently, France has this at 15 minutes per day and no further than 400 meters from their home.

    Start thinking about how you would work around this because it will come unless by some miracle,  the virus is somehow controlled and the cases start to decline.

  • Fisherman
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    edited March 2020 #904

    It beggars belief that here and on other social media people are posting and suggesting ways to override the Government directives, How stupid,self centered can people be. I had to attend the Royal Liverpool hospital yesterday for bad news and the place was so different. Empty consultation rooms, no one in reception. The consultant said " we dont have trolleys in the corridors yet but it is not a matter of if but when", As my time is limited it makes me believe that perhaps we as humans deserve what is coming.

  • peedee
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    edited March 2020 #905

    Bring the dog to stay with you and walk both together.

    peedee

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited March 2020 #906

    Can’t Martynemail just do what all the Brits are currently doing, those wending their tortuous way back from Spain, Portugal Etc....? He can ask police and head for Tunnel, going the other way. If he’s in a Spanish registered vehicle, and got documents to prove where he lives, they might allow it. (He’ll need to be careful though, local population might not be happy seeing a MH chugging along during lockdown.)

  • Rufs
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    edited March 2020 #907

    great idea and would love to do that, but need to walk on lead and daughters dog is a brut and not very good on lead, so witrh both knees replaced i find this very very difficult and the last thing i want right now is possible medical attention for myself, only today and Thursday to worry about so we will survive

    as a footnote my daughter that lives in East G tells me tube trains still packed this morning, standby for even more crack downs yell  

  • Rufs
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    edited March 2020 #908

    she is a front line teacher that is why she was trravelling laughing

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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited March 2020 #910

    That’s good news, the less folks coming back from other badly hit areas, the better for all of us here in UK. That doesn’t mean I am having a go at those unfortunately caught up in vastly restricted travel, it means exactly what I said. No movement is better for everyone.👍

    He’ll have seen the videos of Brits behaving badly in Spain last week, and last nights news about Spanish police going into a care home to help out, only to find some residents dead, and staff gone, too frightened to stay?

    Every nation on Earth has shown poor behaviour, it’s not just the UK, most are doing the best they can in circumstances no one in living memory has ever encountered. Each person is doing their best according to their ability to self care, some are very successful, need no help beyond following guidance, others want to push the boundaries on everything, or lack the understanding capability. They will be informed other ways.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited March 2020 #911

    No, this is a different day. Dog walk in local huge park, no contact with anyone else, walked only by me. Back home, potter in garden all day. That is my exercise. This evening, OH will do the dog walk, on his own, his exercise out of home. (He will have done around 30 miles up in attic on his bike) The dog is laughing, he gets to double up! Our bikes will be on rollers, in garden when it warms up a bit. Less chance of any unforeseen accidents.

    I though you might be in two week isolation having returned from overseas? Not sure when you got back?

  • RedKite
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    edited March 2020 #913

    Here in France we awaiting the next information due later today and as to exercise walking but no cycling, an hour per day upto 1000 metres from your home in any direction so you could get quite a good walk if you go in the different directions, we have both walked around our field a few times and I will go down the road this afternoon but must take the paper form with me, did do some shopping yesterday again on my own only 1 person in a car for that chore and again took the form with me only not to see a Gendarme at all on the way to our local Carrefour, did wear disposable gloves and a mask covered by a scarf and saw two other people doing the same but as usual the French not bothering even saw 1 lady handling a lot of fresh veg and two other ladies and myself decided not to get any but they were expecting another delivery later in the day, some cities have got a curfew and there maybe a lot more this week.

    Boleroboy we used to live on the Polden Hills for 25 years.

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  • DavidKlyne
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    edited March 2020 #915

    Perhaps it might be therapeutic for people to write about their experience of escaping some foreign country to make their way home? Plenty of room in the Story Section and it would be good to add some photos.

    David

  • young thomas
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    edited March 2020 #916

    that was my point, today is different.....however, today we can still all 'potter in the garden'...as Brue mentions, i might even have a conversation with a passer by....whilst upholding the spacing regs..

    i need supplies, i certainly wont drive anywhere, but i could walk or cycle to local shop as a combined exercise/supplies trip...whilst upholding the spacing regs and reducing any contact to a minimum.

    to ride a bike we have no need to warm up here, nice and sunny...sat out last night and coffee outside this morning....table tennis later..with members of own household.

    what two week isolation period are you referring to?

    i looked when we returned and could find nothing other than those flying in from Wutan (January), a note about Canberra (16th March) and something from the Irish govt.

    a further Google now reveals nothing from HM Gov...

    ive been watching the daily briefings for a week or more and its certainly not been mentioned as far as i recall.

    the Govt is specifically recalling travellers but, even there, no mention of this specific point.

    do you have a link?

  • young thomas
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    edited March 2020 #917

    theraputic?

    like many others in Spain, we had 3 long days driving, the first being very important in that we had to get over the border into France as Spain was about to implement a lockdown...

    ok, id done this particular 6 hr leg many times, but never with so much importance attached.

    having reached the relative sanctuary of France, we still faced two long days to get to Cherbourg for our evening ferry....CC had already bumped us from the afternoon one (now cancelled) onto the overnight one....

    a further overnighter near Niort saw us heading for the port only to be told by BF that this ferry was also being cancelled and that we were to divert to Caen.

    luckily, we hadnt started driving up the penninsula so the diversion was ok, not so for others who had just arrived at Cherbourg only to informed they now had to drive to Caen.

    as it happens, the ferry ride (in 'quarantine' ) was fine, we slept pretty well...

    the drive home was much longer than our planned trip but at least we made it home..

    theraputic? no.....traumatic, for some, im sure.

    i dont do 'stories'....and we dont have any happy photos capturing the occasionundecided

  • richardandros
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    edited March 2020 #918

    Well, the latest measures seem to be having an impact here. Went for usual dog walk on the beach, this morning - deserted.  Popped into the chemists for our scripts and the town was also very sparsely populated with only a handful of people visible. Then to the Co-op for some bread on the way home -only two other people in there and the shelves looked fairly full. (Deliberately stayed away from Tescos which I suspect was quite different). As I drove past the Drs surgery, the car park which is always heaving had only half a dozen or so cars in it. Don't know how long it will last, but certainly an improvement on recent days.

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited March 2020 #919

    There’s quite a difference here as well. Very few cars are on the road and the Co-op was nearly empty with a one way system in place to help people keep their distance. The shelves were better stocked than last week but still no paper goods.

    A holiday maker was overheard (from 2m away) complaining that he was encouraged to come here by a holiday home owner but, now he’s here, he’s finding people are shunning him. The shop assistant went to great pains to explain that we only have one major hospital in Cornwall which struggles to cope at the best of times so the potential of visitors bringing the virus here and/or falling ill themselves is far from welcome.

  • young thomas
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    edited March 2020 #920

    impact?....beach, chemist, Co-op, Dr surgery car park...undecided

    i went to Aldi (2 miles) on the bike, for our essential shop....

    pretty sparce as was the beach, chemist, Co-op and the Dr surgery car park....undecided

  • peedee
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    edited March 2020 #921

    Still cannot get any slots for home delivery. This morning Morrisons was in lockdown and even the local farm shops are not accepting anymore delivery orders. We spent this morning adding and increasing items for delivery on the one slot we managed to get 10 days go.

    Looks like in future I will be forced to go out.

    peedee

  • CooperN
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    edited March 2020 #922

    Good, that’s the idea. The sooner this is controlled, the sooner we’ll slowly all return to normal.

    My lovely wife rolled in at 11 this morning, 14 hours with only a half hour break. Didn’t say too much before she hit the sack but 8 yes 8!!! pubs, mainly village pubs, holding ‘private drinking parties’ last night which she had to disband, two arrested for putting up a fight.

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  • peedee
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    edited March 2020 #924

    We are not starving either, just trying to avoid going out at all. It will be the fresh food that will ultimately be the problem. I can get milk from the farm and I am hoping the farm shop for veg will be more deserted than say Tesco or Aldi. We have some frozen veg but it is never the same.

    peedee

  • EmilysDad
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    edited March 2020 #925

    Plenty of us doing 14 hr days ... I do 12 hr shifts with an hour travelling each way, daughter does 13 hr shift cos she doesn't get a paid meal break (when she gets it) ... your wife is not alone! 🙄 though I concede that plod do some very strange shift patterns.

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited March 2020 #926

    There are lots of good folks out there, doing good work on behalf of all of us, I confess I am glad my OH retired now and not required, especially as he’s now on the endangered list. Mum is doing fine, her and Sis are busy devising all sorts of new menus making most of supplies. They always have a well stocked baking cupboard........

    For those of us “oop North” I am just off to check out Ringtons. We have a regular delivery each fortnight, and up to yesterday, all was fine. No contact required, delivered to door, yummy. I will post an update for anyone interested. Not sure how far South they go......

     

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2020 #927

    For the first time in weeks plenty of parking at our local Aldi, plenty of veg and fresh meat and long use by dates so have stocked up the week ahead. Did my usual walk anyone we did meet we crossed on opposite sides. 

    Quite a few slots on Sainsbury's delivery but when trying to pay it comes up error 404. Live chat says it's because of the high demand of people trying to use the system

  • brue
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    edited March 2020 #928

    One of our daughters went back to the secondary school yesterday where she teaches all senior ages up to A level. Five children appeared but as this could change depending on which parents maybe needed as key workers etc she'll now be on a weekly one day rota whilst setting work for all the others at home, responding to worries, problems and the "miss, I haven't got the right equipment"  type! They were all told to take home what was needed...wink

    One of the staff members is being tested for C virus anti-bodies so no one went home happy. frown

  • Tammygirl
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    edited March 2020 #929

    We seem to be doing a bit better here than in some areas, shops are not too busy, no big queues outside. Fresh fruit, veg, meat are all in good supply. I haven't been in the freezer shops but I've heard they have supplies just not full freezers. 

    Had  a call from the garage to say come and collect your car as we are now closing down, fully expected this after yesterdays broadcast. Some of the recall work has been done but 1 needs parts and another issue we had also needs parts so the car will have to go back once they are allowed to reopen.

    We have enough supplies to  see us till the end of the week when it will just be milk and bread, big sister and BIL are isolating at home both in their mid seventies and BIL just finished chemo has to be very careful. We will get their groceries for them and take them round but not go in the house, same with our 93 year old neighbour. 

    Lots of projects to be getting on with in and around the home so life for us hasn't really changed so far. Might even get all that's on OH's list done this time, before we are allowed to get out and about. 

    Stay safe everyone, be nice to each other.smile

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited March 2020 #930

    We are fine here as well TG, lots of food, no silliness going on. 

    Ringtons update, they have suspended the doorstep deliveries,☹️ much as I expected. Just hope our local chap is ok, they franchise the deliveries, so we will give him lots of support when they resume doorstep deliveries. On the plus side, online orders are ok😁👍 can highly recommend their products, very nice tea and coffee, delicious biscuits etc.....

    https://www.ringtons.co.uk/customer-update-i291

     

  • Cornersteady
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    edited March 2020 #931

    At my wife's school it was 8 yesterday and 7 today (5 attended both days). The school is being staffed on a very minimalist rota.

    Also FSM children are being given packed lunches this week and are  being delivered by staff to those entitled. Also there will be supermarket vouchers in place soon to be given all FSM children.