Club to charge for electric vehicle charging

MichaelT
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edited February 2020 in UK Campsites & Touring #1

I see on page 92 of this months magazine the club are going to charge for charging of electric vehicles, £2 for a Hybrid and £8 for a fully electric.  However initially it is going to be up to the member to let the warder know they want to charge their car on arrival so another job for them to police.  Future they are planning proper charging points.

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  • CJDM
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    edited February 2020 #2

    One step at a time. Seems reasonable.

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  • cyberyacht
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    edited February 2020 #4

    That's going to upset Malcolm's budgeting.

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2020 #5

    He is still living in his caravan,was spotted at Northbrook farm ,and still expecting the site staff to give him "special treatment" on his seasonal pitch,so yes his Smart car will if wanting charge on site now not be as "smart"surprised

  • SteveL
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    edited February 2020 #6

    There seems to be two threads on this topic running. The other on the Caravan and MH Chat thread.🤔

    Our seasonal pitch a couple of years ago worked out at £6 per night if all possible days were used. So £14 with EV charging

  • mickysf
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    edited February 2020 #7

    Oh dear, I trust them to trust me. I also trust that they will deal with the untrustworthy who walk amongst us.  We are already expected to declare all in our party and some, their age. If people are clearly being dishonest should the staff just turn that blind eye in your opinion? 

     

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2020 #8

    But you would only be charged the £8 to charge your EV on the days you would need to plug in, not every day, unless it has only low capacity battery,(or its used for Pizza deliveries every day)surprised

    And as for all members being honest and adviseing the site office staff  they  "were charging their vehicle today/night " just ask any staff who were working on the sites network when EHU was an add charge how "honest?" some members were/areundecided

  • Oscarmax
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    edited February 2020 #9

    All going well we will have a Outlander PHEV in June, I have no problem with paying £2.00 to charge up, I can only guess how many times I will need to charge up, hopefully I will be able to pop into the office and pay for any additional charges.

    Would it not be easier if you purchased a ticket, which had a date to be displayed in the vehicle being charged windscreen., that way if you were charging you vehicle without a valid ticket you be reprimanded.

    Our caravan has energy saving led lighting etc, we have fitted 2 x solar panels and a MPPT solar controller so as to limited our use on the grid.

    I can see and probably welcome smart metered pitches.

  • KjellNN
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    edited February 2020 #10

    Some people may well be spending more time using the "free" charging points that some car dealers offer.

    I think a Smart uses about 25-30 kWh for a full charge, so maybe £4 worth, so paying £8 for a charge is not sensible.  Those with bigger battery capacity will get better value.

  • Pliers
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    edited February 2020 #11

    If you’re delivering pizzas, the £8 charge up fee must still be cheaper than the equivalent cost of diesel.

    Best wishes to Malcolm, wherever he is, what a character!

    🙂

  • magnet
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    edited February 2020 #12

    I am glad that the club is now going to charge for electric cars, as the wont pay me for my diesel or petrol  when I stay on site. 

  • PITCHTOCLOSE
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    edited February 2020 #13

    Will not be long before it rolled into the pitch fee, when this occurs hopefully you can opt out and not pay for the electric i for you do not require it.

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2020 #14

    Will not be long before it rolled into the pitch fee

    It will be a long time due to all the variables.

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2020 #15

    Not in our lifetime, or many much youngerwink

  • peedee
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    edited February 2020 #16

    A bit of a stop gap measure, short sighted or what?

    peedee

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2020 #17

    Its a start ,until a better? way is introduced that would not involve large amounts of investment for little if any return, ie metered EHUs

  • Rufs
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    edited February 2020 #18

    much sooner than you think and you will not be immediatley aware of it. It will be in the usual annual price hike, and as per now it will be brushed aside as "due to the increase cost of utilities" and as pitch fees are not itemised you will never be able to know just how much your are subsidising your neighbour with his bright shiny new EV 

  • Rufs
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    edited February 2020 #19

    agreed, will just lead to more curtain twitching to check who is charging their EV at 0200 hrs frown

  • peedee
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    edited February 2020 #20

    i would agree with that if there were any signs that this was so. At least metering could be introduced gradually. I would have thought Cayton with all the money being spent on it ( alegedly  £7 Million) was the ideal place to start.

    peedee

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2020 #21

    If he is paying £8 for the privilege I doubt that I shall be subsidising him. So far (according to one poster) 1% of the vehicles on site are PHEVs or EV. I suspect that there are few EV vehicles though. 

    With 99% of site users using ICE vehicles it is a way down the road before it is included.

  • Rufs
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    edited February 2020 #22

    but on a "honesty box" system are you sure that everybody is going to pay, and at the end of the financial year how are the club to know that the monies collected = the amount of power used across the network.

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2020 #23

    There have and still are complaints about MC service points being slow to introduce ,how gradual ?wink

  • Mick2
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    Ultimately, metering the supply to each van would be the most equitable - and might well result in a downturn in electrical consumption across the network.

    Clearly there’s an initial installation cost to be considered but it would be the more sensible longer term approach.

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2020 #25

    For me, at the moment, the amount of power used to charge EVs is irrelevant because there are so few if any. Charging PHEVs is more likely. I suspect though that the vast majority of folk are basically honest

  • peedee
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    edited February 2020 #26

    Could you expand on what you are saying. I don't really understand it.

    By graduel I mean site by site ove a number of years mcuh the same way motorhome service points are being done.

    peedee

  • EasyT
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    edited February 2020 #27

    That gradual?

     
  • JVB66
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    edited February 2020 #28

    Its not me thensurprised,wink

  • peedee
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    edited February 2020 #29

    Ok so my fingers flew over the keyboard too quickly. and I have one eye on other things, so can you explain further JVB because the February article in the magazine did not exactly inspire me with confidence the Club meant business.

    peedee

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2020 #30

    Any better idea to try to placate the ever growing complaints about "free traction fuel "on club sites for hybrids ,without massive investment on other types of fair EHU use?

  • JVB66
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    edited February 2020 #31

    The club already seem to know who has a Hybrid/EV so it will be a known figure what is on site, and the staff will have a record of those who have paid to charge,them,

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