Bristol Clean Air Zone
Watching the local news tonight and the mayor of Bristol is proposing a clean air zone from 2021 which will have a diesel free zone in the centre which looks like it will include Baltic Wharf.
This will be in effect from 7am to 3pm, with a £100 fine for entering the zone.
If this comes into effect it will make it very difficult for any diesel tow cars or motorhomes to use the Baltic Wharf site,
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Yes I saw that and the map encompases baltic wharf area,Cambridge are looking at the same for the City ,but as the boss of the bus company states the technology to enable buses to complete their diagrams as diesel buses can is not yet available ,so will need an add 25%bigger fleet to carry out their obligations ,so who is going to pay for them?
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He’s also promised to build an underground railway so I wouldn’t hold your breath! If you live in Somerset you’ll probably be familiar with the politics of Bristol Council -v- real life!
I worked in Bristol and lived in North Somerset for many years and I’m still waiting for the Portishead Rail Link and Bristol Tram System!
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This will be in effect from 7am to 3pm, with a £100 fine for entering the zone.
Thats a whole 5 hours to arrive / leave in. Say leave by 3:30 arrivals from 3:30pm. Might even make it easier to get into, particularly at weekends. We would still go, if of course it stays open.
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Pity it appears to treat all diesels as equal, not accepting the massive advances over older versions.
I see it impacting very widely, there are the ambulances and fire engines, neither readily converted to EVs or petrol powered by 2021.
I am very supportive of cleaning up pollution but believe it needs to be pragmatic and sensible, taking onboard the achievements of Euro6, certainly over Euro5 and older.
Will any of us be worrying over accessing Baltic Wharf, diesel user or not by 2021?
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I see it impacting very widely, there are the ambulances and fire engines, neither readily converted to EVs or petrol powered by 2021.
Indeed .... "Yes sir/madam ... your ambulance/fire engine will be on its way just as soon as we've charged its batteries"
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I have family in central Bristol, there are high pollution levels and one family member suffers from asthma. Something needs to be done. I see there are air monitoring stations dotted around already. The 3pm limit mentioned seems strange as around that time until early evening central Bristol starts to jam with school and commuter traffic. Avoid those times!
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The press is reporting a story that Bristol City is proposing to ban all diesels. Ah but, all sorts of vehicles will be permitted to carry on choking the kids to death providing they pay the council a wad of money. When will councils admit that they know the real problem, that cities have become too large and too dense. This population compacting and enlarging is all driven by the very same money grabbing council policies. if you pack 3/4 of a million people into a small place with no decent transport infrastructure, what sort of air do you expect?
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Deliveries to be made by barrow in future then? That'll save on white van man's gym membership.
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We are where we are and that often means the options are limited. I would have thought that even taking a proportion of vehicles out of the area will have a positive impact even if it leaves more to do. I just wonder what people would suggest as an alternative which would produce the same result? If you think back to the old Clean Air Act that made a massive difference.
David
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The genie is out of the bottle, and I doubt that most will want to try and stuff it back in. It would take population reduction, a move to go back to decent, cheap, reliable local transport, people working closer to where they live, children going to local schools, shops stocking food with longer sell by dates, a limit on overseas flying etc...... Take away cars and the tourist industry (hotels, cottages, campsites, NT, EH, etc....) would either collapse overnight, or go back to being only for the select few rich enough to buy carbon offsets.
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agree with TTDA, just about all our issues derive (directly or indirectly) from the fact that there are far too many of us fighting over ever dwindling resources.
no matter how hard the manufacturers work to reduce 'pollution' by x %, if the amount of 'users' is increasing by several x in the same period they're on a loser...
oh well, we've had a good (but comparatively short) run
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"I see it impacting very widely, there are the ambulances and fire engines, neither readily converted to EVs or petrol powered by 2021."
According to local news it will only apply to privately owned vehicles (from 7am to 3pm) so I think emergency service vehicles will be exempt.
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not if they ban the use of inhalers that keep some of us breathing after years of inhaling asbestos dust etc!!!!!!
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This is all a bit academic as Baltic Wharf is living on borrowed time. The site is due for development and currently held on a rolling 6 months lease. The chances of this prime harbour-side site not being developed by 2021 must be slim. It’s a great site and will be a sad loss.
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I think it’s a great idea. If pollution levels are high, take steps to reduce them. Why is it though when one hears of these things, folks are lining up to pour cold water over them? Always looking for reasons for not doing something? We’ve even had a suggestion that another war will sort it out? I live in Bristol, I run a diesel (E6), I’ll live with it, no great hardship.
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this is Government & Councils being stupid, as I have Asthma I know the facts, modern Diesels with a D.P.F. fitted don't cause any harm, a Petrol causes a lot more harm.
Electric cars are only good for a City car, they have a range of about 200 miles, I for one drive 420 Miles when we go to Cornwall, to fully charge an Electric car you need an 8 hour charge, & where can you charge with a caravan on the back, firms reps can do up to 600 miles in day, you cant do it with electric.
Will Bristol have electric busses, convert police, ambulance and fire pumps to electric.
If Bristol want to be silly, then let the caravan club close the site and sell the land, Bristol businesses will lose a lot of money
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If Bristol want to be silly, then let the caravan club close the site and sell the land, Bristol businesses will lose a lot of money
Unfortunately they don't own it. It is leased from the council, who want it back to develop / sell themselves. Hence the fact it is on borrowed time.
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If anybody drives 600 miles in a day that’s almost criminal negligence. 420 miles is not much better. EVs never recharge from zero to 100%, usually 20% to 80% and this should take around 30 - 45 mins. maximum using present technology. Many people drive hundreds of miles with EVs. Please get your facts straight and your arguments may be more credible.
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There was a report in the i newspaper this week stating that an American University has developed a system for fast charging an electric car in 10 minutes, not hours but 10 minutes. It's more to do with developing the battery to accept such a charge. Developments occur so quickly that none of us really knows where we'll be, vis-a-vis, electric cars in 5 years time.
Banning diesel cars in some cities at certain times is already happening. Better get used to being clobbered if we continue our pastime.
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