Should the Club put it's foot down?

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  • neveramsure
    neveramsure Forum Participant Posts: 712
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    edited October 2019 #242

    It's good to know I can rely on you to come up with some facts and figures Corners.laughing

    "Off topic......Nevers, lovely to have you back occasionally. Hope you are keeping well😁"

    I'm keeping well thanks TDA, hope you and yours are well also.smile

  • mickysf
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    edited October 2019 #243

    Even if it's as little time off as this, that's the equivalent of 4 days a week  (two couple site) when only one couple is working, that's more than half a week, one could call that most or the majority of the week! I reckon it is even more than that.

  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 2019 #244

    fair point micky

  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 2019 #245

    a pleasure smile

    yes welcome back too from me

  • KjellNN
    KjellNN Club Member Posts: 8,668 ✭✭✭
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    edited October 2019 #246

    Indeed they are where we usually tour, anything from 45 to 75 Euro cents per kWh, so even Calor would be cheaper!

    We do have refillables and the gas is cheap and widely available, and the heating is more effective on gas.

  • eurortraveller
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    edited October 2019 #247

    But environmentally, burning gas is much worse than using green electricity - Extinction Rebellion will be coming to a campsite near you any day now. 

  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 2019 #248

    will they glue themselves to the gas tanks? smile

  • rayjsj
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    edited October 2019 #249

    No, not needed, enough rules already.

    And i dont even have an awning.

  • rayjsj
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    edited October 2019 #250

    Hope so, that can be very painful. Are they ' special needs' ? bless them. 

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2019 #251

    I think you will find that staffing levels on most club sites have increased in recent years to cater for the much higher occupanosy,

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2019 #252

    And why Swiss farm is also awash with money it seems but then nice try yet again to sidestep the differential wink

  • Tammygirl
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    edited October 2019 #253

    We no longer use an awning but when we did have one many years ago we did heat it on one trip away. surprised

    OH was studying at the time and was using the porch awning as his 'office' one day it took him longer to go through a 'mock exam' than anticipated. This took him into the twilight hours and as such the temperature dropped. He didn't want to come inside and abandon it so I put the fan heater out there to take the chill off. Guilty as charged Gov.laughing

    When we tour in the UK its usually in the colder months so no awning used. In the good weather we adopt the attitude if its nice we site outside, when it gets chilly we go inside. 

    We have come across one site (an AS) that has notices in the office and around the site and facilities block that state ' NO heaters to be used in awnings' on walking back from the facilities one night we counted 3 awnings with heaters (the radiant type) these were on seasonal pitches. It was not winter, just a chilly evening. If an AS site with owners living on site can't 'police it' then a C&MC site generally bigger stands little to no chance. 

    We also saw once (on a club site) a lady drying her washing in the awning with a couple of fan heaters. We only noticed as she was standing at the door of the awning looking rather warm, we got into conversation, she told us she always does that rather than the use the tumbler as she would 'have to pay for that' 

  • rayjsj
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    edited October 2019 #254

    Swiss farm ? Have the Club bought another site ?   Thought this thread was about wasting electricity ?  These threads do wander a bit, hard to keep up.

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2019 #255

    And from 2025?no new biult properties to have gas boilerssurprised

  • KjellNN
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    edited October 2019 #256

    I suppose they will coming to our houses too then!

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2019 #257

    Swiss farm is a commercial site just down the road from Seven Oaks Henley on Thames site. It has swimming pool. restaurant, bar caravan/MH pitches and statics  - don't know a lot else

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited October 2019 #258

    Last time we were at Tredegar it had become a one couple site, and it was very busy? 

    edit.....that’s a cracking predictive text at the end of your sentence😁

  • nelliethehooker
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    edited October 2019 #259

    They're full (sometimes) because a large number of members can't be bother to look for better priced alternatives, and there are plenty out there.! It just takea a bit of research, which many people can't be bothered doing.

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2019 #260

    That's a new "slant"on why club sites are so full most of the timewink

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2019 #261

    Most sites,wink

  • Cornersteady
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    edited October 2019 #262

    That is rather insulting.

    You can't accept that a large numbers of members actually like them and think they offer excellent sites at good rates?

     

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  • Takethedogalong
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    edited October 2019 #264

    It’s a very easy option to book a Club Site and accept what is on offer, and a lot of folks do it because it gives them the standards, expectations and convenience they are looking for, and that’s a perfectly good reason to stay a member and go with what the Club offers.

    But for others, Club Sites don’t offer the degree of choice that might be preferred all year round. I know we are finding it more difficult to find a Club Site we like that isn’t too far away, between November and March. Hence we explore other options and have found some very nice ones that meet our Winter preferences. 

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2019 #265

    Update for you on Tredeger and some other small sites (under 100 pitches)

    The wardens at these sites  where in the past had two couples although it was only at weekends there were two couples, can now have a week off every 21days, it is normally their choice to be single couple  with consultation with the area manager wink

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited October 2019 #266

    Thanks for update JVB, good to hear staffing models give staff some preferences. 

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2019 #267

    And with a known  good quality of sites, it is a very good reason to use club sites over the unknowns of a lot of "private"sites it a shame that there are not more open in the Winter period although more if viable are open for longer into the next year

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2019 #268

    There might be some truth in that regarding some members. Certainly not the whole reason though.

    When I first started caravanning I used a lot of CLs for short breaks and some non club CLs. Also used Club sites but the sites were chosen for location. At that time I found some of the private sites well below par compared to club sites. These days most privately run sites have upped their game. Even so, for me and the things that I want CC sites do provide what I want and other options are generally second choice.

    My first consideration is location - is the site where I want to be. If there is a suited CC site then my choice is simple. My first consideration is not cost. That is secondary to me. For what I want from a site I personally do not see a significant (to me) savings on other commercial sites and in fact I consider some commercial sites overpriced for what they offer to us. Others might well love some of those sites and some seem very popular. 

    We have a 15 night December chillout break to Southport area every year. For us, having used other sites a while back to visit theatre or Flower Show at other times of the year, the CC site is the dearest for us in that area but is by far the best located for what we want and is therefore worth the extra. 

    For this member it is not so much that I can't be bothered to look for cheaper sites but rather that it is very much a secondary consideration. 

    If I ws less well off or perhaps toured for more than 4 months of the year cost might be more of a consideration and of course there are cheaper (and dearer) sites available

  • Takethedogalong
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    edited October 2019 #269

    We have never found any of the small private sites we have researched a disappointment luckily, and go back to some quite frequently. They are are proving a good alternative in Winter when we choose hardstandings more and other comforts.

    Just considering one of your favourites for next month possibly for a few nights....Ferry Meadows. A good price, comes in at under £19 per night with mid week discount. Would like to link it to another, but Stamford site closes on 4th November😡 

    Edit, sorry ET, I was answering JVs post. 😊

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2019 #270

    If you want to link FM to others what about Ashridge Farm or even Commons Wood (for London)surprised

  • KjellNN
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    edited October 2019 #271

    I must admit that I can recognise myself there, up till about 3-5 years back!

    Club sites do offer what we like, are easy to book, no deposits, easy to alter or cancel if necessary.....an important consideration at our age.

    However, in the last few years site prices have been rising at a rate much faster than my pension, and peak and shoulder periods have been extended, so we have become much more cost conscious and started looking at other options much more.  It was either that or go away less.

    We are now using more CLs and CCC sites than CAMC sites, and not planning or   booking  so far ahead.