Should the Club put it's foot down?

I don't disagree but whether somebody used electric or not they would still be charged with the infrastructure and maintenance costs etc. Indeed it should make no difference to the CC whether electric was used or not. 

I simply prefer not to faff with seperate payments others, particularly those with decent solar might have a different point of view and particularly in summer. 

When the CC started including electric in with pitch cost I installed electric to make use of it and the extra convenience that it presented then ..... and still does. 

It might impact on wardens hours etc depending on the system used and would increase pitch fees (before electric)

I have water meter, gas meter and electric meter and never need reading as all sent via Wifi so could easily be done on pitches and sent to the office via there own wifi network.

Agree. We are firmly in the turn them off at night camp. But then we always carry a torch and are happy taking full responsibility for our safety where we can. Bolton Abbey ablutions block was lit up like a Christmas Tree all night last visit, but probably all LEDs. I think the Estate has a lot of say how things are done there, for example there’s a two hour gap between departures and arrivals, 11am off, no arrivals before 1pm. 

But the point is, Alan, that it would be of use to those who don't require EHU, in the same way that serviced pitches are of no interest to us, but some do make use of them. So if, say 10% of pitches were made non EHU (or EHU optional) it would satisfy those for whom that's desirable.

(I have to say, though, that when we have used C&CC sites where the option is available the numbers I've seen not hooked up could be counted on the fingers of less than two hands! )

  This is how it is done on one commercial site in the UK.Where there is a will there is a way.

Never thought that there wasn't PD. Which site is that or are you not telling?

Presumably you leave with the credit back on your smart card which is useless until you revisit? Or can you have a cash refund? 

I agree about motion sensors. Our local park has motion sensors on lamps, on and off.

Staffing argument is a red herring. No matter what staff are doing, they require paying and are subject to whatever local terms and conditions of employment are relevant. It’s how you use the staff resources that count. Multi skilled staff are of far greater worth than single skill/chore staff at small isolated sites. It’s why some repairs get left for a long time awaiting something like “estates team” who might be only ones deemed qualified to fix a loo flush or replace a light bulb. Extreme examples, but not uncommon in some work places. I have no experience of overseas campsites, so cannot comment, but you are likely to be looking at a totally different model, and possibly quite different H&S and employment legislation. 

Motion sensors make sense but the last site that I used - not CC- I got a bit fed up of waving my arm every 20 seconds 

I agree totally, that’s why I said it’s how staff resources are utilised. I would trial one person doing loos and leave one in office, but it all depends. Two hitting Ladies and Gents would half the time they are closed, which might be of more value to some Club members?

If it was me, I would switch to doing blocks in afternoon (after an initial check round first thing in morning to stock loo rolls and soap). Less folks on site, could get away with one person spending longer cleaning, leave other in office. Swop over to do other side. Not just loos to clean of course, Wardens keep many other areas clean and tidy. However, it might be that policy is to do outdoor work at certain times as well, such as grass cutting, other maintenance, I don’t know. 

Folks leave at all hours of the day, paying on leaving means staffing the office accordingly, unless payment can be done electronically. Both have cost implications.

SO it requires staff availability

I would trial one person doing loos and leave one in office,

As I said earlier I have usually been aware on site that there are either two staff in the reception or one in reception and one within earshot in the back office and wondered whether the CC risk assessment outlawed single manning? No idea.