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  • EasyT
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    edited October 2019 #242

    I don’t know why you are so aggressive about the C&CC.

    I didn't recognise aggression WTG, just a personal dissatisfaction. 

  • Tinwheeler
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    edited October 2019 #243

    Can we not agree that our experiences of C&CC have differed and that we each prefer various different aspects of the two clubs?

    This 'yes it is / no it isn't' stuff is just going round in ever decreasing circles and none of us can say for sure what others have experienced. I’m happy to believe everyone is telling it as it happened to them.

  • brue
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    edited October 2019 #244

    Here's the information that was posted on the web site by CAMC, scroll down to read about possible future changes etc.

                                 Bookings LINK

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2019 #245

    Thanks for the link Brue.

    We’re also working on the three most common topics from members when making a booking with the Club;

    Block bookings
    Cancellations
    Deposits
    Rest assured, we’re evaluating all of your feedback and looking into different options to ensure the next steps we take to evolve the sites booking experience are in the best interest of the membership as a whole.

  • MikeyA
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    edited October 2019 #246

    Looking forward to the new "booking experience" smile

  • DavidKlyne
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    edited October 2019 #247

    Well Sleuthed Brue.

    In addition to Alan's post whatever the changes are have involved the following people:-

    Who was consulted about this change?
     

    Members, Site Staff and Committee Members were all involved in designing and delivering the new improvements: over 100,000 new and longer standing members were invited to share their views in 2018; 5 focus groups and 22 user experience testing sessions held with members; all Site Staff (over 900) were surveyed and all Committee Members were consulted

    It is possible some of us have been asked for feedback without knowing that the information was to be used to redesign the booking system?

    Unfortunately nothing in the link posted about being able to book a particular type of pitch unless the devil is in the detail that we don't yet know about!!!

    David

  • Rufs
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    edited October 2019 #248

    I think this has been said before "if you dont like it dont use it, go somewhere else", the club is a business and as such will continue to be run as a business, so things that make money will be improved to make more money, loss leaders will be dropped. Dont often use club sites from either club, with the exception of perhaps sites like Hill Head which have most of what i require and dont look and feel completely like a car park.

    from my past experience, i think deposits would be a good idea, on 2 occasions have had to temporarily park on a pitch with a view to moving if somebody who had booked a pitch did not turn up, and guess what, they never turned up not just 1 person but several, probably because the weather was not great.

    I think some of what you get on club sites is dependant upon the wardens, who i think all do a splendid job, some better than others, and the clientel at any given time.

    For the Gkids half term we have booked a static at Camber Sands £185 for 4 nights, 3 beds, (sleeps 8) 2 baths, central heating, smart tv, and full use of site pool, health suite, and some entertainment, not exactly our cup of tea, but the kids will love it, much better for them than some car park, with everybody hibernating after 1700 hrs. Had planned the IOW but weather conditions not looking so good. 

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2019 #249

    from my past experience, i think deposits would be a good idea, on 2 occasions have had to temporarily park on a pitch with a view to moving if somebody who had booked a pitch did not turn up, and guess what, they never turned up not just 1 person but several, probably because the weather was not great.

    I really cannot see a deposit system, such as that of C&CC. will make the slightest difference as to whether anybody turns up or not or cancels. 

    It might be me but, if I was going away, even just for two nights, but decided that the weather and location did not suit and that it was better that I cancel then the loss of (say) £30 deposit would make no difference. The choice would be do I lose £30 or spend an additional £50 driving to and from a place that I have decided that I don't want to be at that time and spend £80 instead of £30. Guess what my choice would be - no prizes? 

  • MikeyA
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    edited October 2019 #250

     If deposits are non refundable it will probably stop members booking months in advance, on just a whim.

  • Rufs
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    edited October 2019 #251

    It might be me but, if I was going away, even just for two nights, but decided that the weather and location did not suit and that it was better that I cancel then the loss of (say) £30 deposit would make no difference

    could be an additional revenue stream for the club  undecided

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2019 #252

    I doubt that it would make much difference on popular sites at popular times of the year Mikey. 

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2019 #253

    It might but it also might mean less bookings for club sites as for some no deposit is an attraction. Makes no odds to me as if I cancel it would be for breakdowns, health, or hurricanes as my stops are steps along the way and not a short break. 

  • MichaelT
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    edited October 2019 #254

    How? 

    I have done just the same on a couple of C&CC sites, plans changed but due to the inflexible booking system and club we just decided to go elsewhere due to no fault of our own, on both occasions got a call at 8ish form the site asking if we are turning up or not.  So instead of a revenue stream it is a loss as they only got £25 instead of the full 2 nights pitch fees so even at £25 a night they lost £25, obviously in high season at popular sites the loss will be higher....

  • EmilysDad
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    edited October 2019 #255

    so you didn't phone the site to advise of your change of plan?

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2019 #256

    Apparently that is what frequently happened before when CC had a booking system and one of the reasons given for its removal. 

  • MichaelT
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    edited October 2019 #257

    Nope why should I?  They are so inflexible you cannot change a booking within 30 days (I think) they take the deposit and won't move it to a new one so their loss IMHO.  

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2019 #258

    One great thing about CC bookings is the ability to amend. In the last 10 years I have probably only had a need to make late changes on a handful of occasions but they were so simple. A couple of times we went away 2 or 3 days earlier than planned and therefore wanted to alter dates as the first stop had been intended for 5 nights and we did not want longer at those sites and so moved on sooner. 

    Held up a couple of days another time on Sandringham CC. Flying debris had holed my power steering coolant pipe. Had to stay lose a couple of extra nights and so extended following site stay and knocked of Milton Keynes site after that one and brought one forwards.  

  • Goldie146
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    edited October 2019 #259

    Not just their loss, but maybe someone else lost out on a pitch - if you had booked it. There’s very rarely any excuse for “no shows”. Inconsiderate all round.

  • EmilysDad
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    edited October 2019 #260

    Nope why should I?

    Courtesy!

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2019 #261

    The law of unintended consequences with inflexible deposit systems in this case. The deposit and inflexibility of the C&CC system has been as popular as Herpes from what I gather.

  • Rufs
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    edited October 2019 #262

    well my guess would be that they took your £25 deposit and then as you were a no show rented out the pitch you were assigned but did not take to somebody else so they get your £25  plus whatever the pitch fee was for 1 night rented to somebody else, easy undecided

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  • JVB66
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    edited October 2019 #264

    The deposit was not enough to deter some from booking several sites enroute some where ,then not bothering contacting the other sites to cancel when stopping for the night, which cannot happen now

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2019 #265

    I understood if you rang the site to cancel with ample time ,the deposit is moved to a new booking?

  • EasyT
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    edited October 2019 #266

    Can you define 'ample time'? When I have had to/wanted to cancel a booking it has never been at more than a weeks notice. 

  • MichaelT
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    edited October 2019 #267

    Please read my post.  They did not know I was not showing until they called late in the evening so I doubt they had a queue of people outside waiting in case a pitch became vacant so they lost out on the revenueundecided

  • MichaelT
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    edited October 2019 #268

    Inconsiderate of them not to amend my booking at short notice due to no fault of my own, I tried they refused so their problem not mine.  Like ET says the C&MC system is great, can amend to the last minute no cost everyones a winner!!!

  • JVB66
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    edited October 2019 #269

    How long is a piece of string when it comes to managers descretion surprised

  • MichaelT
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    edited October 2019 #270

    If they were courteous enough to allow changes to the booking when I called them then I agree, as they were not and were quite abrupt about it I feel I did nothing wrong.  Their system for booking is atrocious what with minimum nights, deposit, unable to amend etc. but the choice of pitch type is better.

  • MichaelT
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    edited October 2019 #271

    I did a couple of weeks before and they would not move.  I had several sites I had booked as part of a tour and was told I would have to lose the deposit and book a new lot of sites so just chose not to bother, too much hassle.