Serviced pitches on Club Sites
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We have connected up our MH on CLs etc where there is no toilet block and each pitch has its own tap & drain. Ours has a whale input which shuts off when the tank is full in addition to the normal hose input. It works very well but I would never ever pay for a serviced pitch, club sites are too pricey as it is.
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If we were going to Hawes it would probably be for a week . I would certainly book a service pitch if I could. It would avoid moving the van, which is not necessary at Hawes, there is so much to do locally. Plus more importantly we like the little separate service pitch area. A little mini site of its own.
Why would you necessarily expect to see the MH's connected. Ours has no means of direct connection of water. We would just refill the 100 litre tank when required. I might leave the waste connected, but probably just extend it when required, to save tripping over it.
Rather than being a tad annoyed, I would just accept, as I do, that I had not booked early enough.
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if none were connected up then it really does beg the question 'why' pay going on £30 (£27.30) a week extra for the 'privilege'.
if that question is answered by 'because I wanted to ensure a HS' then this is a damn sneaky way of raising HS prices without apparently confusing members...
...and to answer your question Alan, yes MH can connect up to fresh and waste water as easily as a caravan.
on pitches 'in other parts' where I am long terming, there will inevitibly be services, so the fresh hose just runs from the tap to the filler point, however I only turn it on when the tank gets low, leave it to fill and then that's enough for another ten days or so.
I also have a waste hose which screws on to my tank outlet and runs into the drain....just leave the dump valve open and waste water runs through the tank straight into the drain.
like you, after one fill we wouldn't require any more water for a while, but in our case on a site with showers (as above) it would be ten days or more.
we are off to a THS site later this morning and I will fill before we go as there are no services there, but I won't need water for at least five days, even though we will both shower in the van every day.
obviously folk use water at different rate...our pals like to rinse crockery umpteen times under a running tap and then wonder why the tank needs refilling after a day or so....and this may have an influence on their (others') SP decision.
...but for us, it's definitely a 'no'.....heddlo is welcome to mine, any time
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Hang on a mo.
How big is a waste and fresh water tank on an average motorhome?
If we change from caravan to one, we would still use and have the same amount of waste water as now, that's +80 litres a day.
I'm different to you, and you to me, if a mh is on a service pitch, unless you watch them 24 hours a day, they may well be using the on pitch facility's.
I can understand the frustration of those of us who prefer serviced, but book earlier, I have, on a club site October, didnt have any problem at all, booked in February I think.
The club sites pitch management system, doesnt seem really to exist, if there are more options to a site then perhaps gone will be the days of self selection of pitch, and hello allocation.
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Steve, I know you haven't had your van very long and are probably still finding your way a little, but I wondered if you actually knew how long your tank lasted before you actually topped up....ie what is 'when required'.....have you left it until you are in the 'red'....I guess not.
i know it's easy to think at 'half full', I'll top up....but that doesn't help in understanding how long the tank really lasts.....
i know that sounds a bit like 'how long is a piece of string' but we have had a lot of experience in camping away from services and know pretty well how much showering in the van (or not) will have on the number of days we can operate without having to refill, as such have much confidence in our tank guages. we certainly don't want to be fetching water (or driving to the tap) before we have to.
its a bit like a car and its fuel tank guage, I know from experience how far I can drive once the car is on 'a quarter' or even 'empty'...
my car has a small tank and quite a short range....in direct contrast to my previous diesel which had a huge tank and a massive range...
bit like different MHs really....
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if none were connected up then it really does beg the question 'why' pay going on £30 (£27.30) a week extra for the 'privilege'.
if that question is answered by 'because I wanted to ensure a HS' then this is a damn sneaky way of raising HS prices without apparently confusing members
The site in question being discussed is Hawes, which is all hardstanding so the reason cannot be to ensure a HS.
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It doesn’t seem to take much to annoy you, Heddlo. Others have explained how MHs use SPs. Live and let live, I say.
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and Melrose, Edinbugh, Troutbeck Head, Bridlington, Barnard Castle.
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So they like I, dont panic or put complex life plans into operation, after several power point presentations with other concerned partys, the wife, with aqua in and aqua out spreadsheets, complex data entrys and mathematical formula from hard measured data.
We just turn the tap on 👍
But seriously, the club booking internet system isnt that good, the more options you have the greater the divide and more complex it becomes, the current software perhaps cant deal with it.
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We have a fairly good handle on how long the tank lasts and what the gauges mean BB, so don't need to fill the tank until almost empty. I don't know who makes the gauges / sensors but they do lack any German precision, so took a bit of getting used to.
Although I am sure we could get close to your level of use BB, ( I do find it impressive ) we have no real desire, unless there was nowhere to fill or dump. Therefore we have carried on more or less as we did with the caravan, where we used about 30 litres a day, if not using the shower. ( used to fill the aquaroll and empty waste daily.) In the MH we get 3 days between fills / dumps if we use site showers. If stopping a fourth night usually a watering can full or so top up will avoid a trip, as there is usually enough room in the waste ( surprising how much gets drunk / flushed) If using the shower we would need to fill / dump every two days.
We will shortly be using some Aires. However, the camping-carpark.com ones we intend trying first, seem fairly well appointed with dump and fill facilities. Oops sorry we are on the UK section.😂
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ts a bit like a car and its fuel tank guage, I know from experience how far I can drive once the car is on 'a quarter' or even 'empty'...
Gaining experience on how far a car will go on empty is not something I have tried in the last 43 years. It can be hard gained knowledge
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..but there are other sites which aren't....
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I credit club members with a bit more intelligence than that, CY!
To add to several examples above, I often use Cirencester Park for a short stay in low season when only the HS pitches are available. The service pitches (which are in an area we used to like using) always seem to be fully booked, many by MHers, some connected some not. I don't believe it's to ensure a hard standing but it may well be to do with ensuring a bit of space!
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Service pitches are just that. They are not specifically designed for caravans or motorhomes. They are there to be used by those willing to pay for the extra facilities. The fact that you might not see a motorhome permanently connected does not mean they don't use the facilities. We would just use the tap to top up the internal tank when required. It is also handy for filling the kettle. I do have a hose which I connect to the waste drain. I would be less inclined to use a service pitch if the site was all hardstanding but even then it is my choice, my £3.90 is as good as the next man's £3.90!!!!
David
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I suppose it depends how long you are pitched for David. When we are pitched for our 15 night long stay I reckon that after initial fill when 8 litres go from aquaroll into hot water tank that we probably use 8 litres a day at most (which is more than our summer time usage). I tend to pick up 5 litres in a collapsible carrier from time to time when I take the rubbish or if I occasionally call into the facilities or when I empty waste about every 5 days and so we don't run out
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When I joined the Club we would have been having the same conversation about EHU the supply of which were by no means universal and hardstandings were few and far between. Like all organisations they grow and develop and the membership are free to make suggestions, I would also go so far to say the Club actually encourage users input otherwise what is the point of member feedback? The booking of pitch type is long overdue. It is nonsense to say we should accept the status quo.
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But others are.
At the none club site we stayed on, several Motorhomes had selected at booking stage a service pitch with M/H waste point.
As I say, perhaps just perhaps they use their outfit to suit them, rather them change to suit it!
We use our caravan as a small house, always service pitch where available, that's what at this stage we want to do, hence out layout, rear bathroom, shower used, fixed bed, kitchen, lounge, car outside
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Weirdo.
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Indeed and on those MH may decide to use to use them to obrain a HS but it is all open and above board price wise, it is their decison to do so, and certainly not as you suggested a damn sneaky way of raising HS prices without apparently confusing members
As M says I think I give members far more credit than be taken in by that.
However on sites where it is all hardstanding this is clearly no reason to do that to ensure a HS and MH are obviously preferring a service pitch, and from observations do so in great numbers, as I said before, one night there were more MH on SP than caravans at Seacroft.
I do appreciate this may be unfathomable and surprising to you as you keep asking why MH want to go onto SP and for what reason, such as the Hawes site being discussed that you replied to, but there it is.
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